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Forum topic by joeyinsouthaustin posted 07-07-2014 09:32 PM 1013 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-07-2014 09:32 PM

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Cricket This could be a PM but I think others might want to chime in. Thanks for just closing the recent thread on the expense of tools, rather than removing it. It still had a lot of civil discussion, albeit not agreements, before the breakdown and personal attack. It is nice to see that level of judgment from a moderator, as other places I have experienced would have just thrown the whole thing out.

Thanks.

-- Who is John Galt?


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#1 posted 07-07-2014 09:36 PM

I don’t think that it should have been closed, but rather the messages containing personal attacks and profanity removed and the accounts of those individuals locked so those capable of maintaining civil dialect could continue to do so.

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#2 posted 07-07-2014 09:41 PM

I agree Bigblock. Its like shutting down a ball game and sending the fans home instead of evicting the guys fighting.

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#3 posted 07-07-2014 09:48 PM

There were several valid points made that can no longer be discussed, but anyone with even the slightest level of imagination can still identify the profanity that was hastily interjected. This is embarrassing for the members of this site.

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#4 posted 07-08-2014 02:38 PM

Bigblockyeti and Don W Those are both very valid points. I was just happy the whole thing didn’t get expunged, but your comments make me agree. I think the two that couldn’t behave should have been blocked out of the thread and the offending comments removed. There were still some points coming out there at the end. Cricket What are your thoughts?

-- Who is John Galt?

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#5 posted 07-08-2014 02:46 PM

The thread has been reopened…


Because this thread is important to many of you, I am reopening it but I do want to caution everyone, that there will be no more warnings about treating each other with respect in this thread. If you are unable to respond respectfully, simply do not post.

Thank you for understanding.

- Cricket

-- "Show respect even to people who don’t deserve it, not as a reflection of their character, but as a reflection of yours."

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#6 posted 07-08-2014 03:21 PM

I didn’t read any of it until about 30 minutes ago because I was out of town. Amazing how many people react to personal opinions of others as if was an attack on them personally.

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#7 posted 07-08-2014 03:45 PM

Greg It does happen.

Cricket Thanks.

-- Who is John Galt?

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#8 posted 07-08-2014 03:47 PM

I suppose it does fall on the OP to moderate a little bit??

-- Who is John Galt?

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#9 posted 07-08-2014 03:48 PM

I believe it was the OP that pulled the pin precisely to see what would happen…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#10 posted 07-08-2014 03:51 PM

Thanks Cricket,

I’m not sure why so many had to get so fired up about one topic, simply because the title was a bit inflamatory.

Expensive, quality and precesion can be many things to many different woodworkers.

The tools a woodworkers may own, use and/or purchase is usually based around 5 basic factors.

1. The woodworker himself/herself; what they expect or demand from any given tool for the purpose of their projects.

2. Their budget; You don’t have to be a millionaire to own good quality tools, and not everyone can afford to just go out and buy the best. (besides, who determines which tools are the best?).

3. Their work enviroment; It really does make a difference if you may be purchasing a tool strictly for yourself or if it will be used by numerous people that may not show or even expect much from any given tool other than to get the job done. Safety and ease of operation may be more important when numerous people are using the same tool. Whether your doing woodworking as a hobby or as a professional may also determine.

4. What type woodworking any given woodworker may be doing. Precesion may not be as important when building a birdhouse as maybe doing intricate inlays.

5. Not every tool in our arsonal has to be the most expensive, best quality or even the most precise.
I have a slew of square aluminum clamps made by Universal Clamp Corp. made in the USA that I’ve used for 20 to 25 years. 24”, 36” and 48” clamps that have always done me well.

I don’t think a woodworker should be knocked or critized if he has a shop full of harbor freight tools or a slew of festools. If I enjoy what I’m doing and I get the results “I’m” looking for, than my tools are my business no matter what they cost or their “brand name” is.

I difinetely know which of my tools are sub-standard and which are not. It’s up to me to decide if I should, or could upgrade to something better.

Be safe and have fun making saw dust.

-- John @ http://www.thehuffordfurnituregroup.com

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#11 posted 07-08-2014 03:54 PM

Well… I was trying to say that a little passively.. but he does have a talent for it, and since he has done it several times, I suppose he does enjoy it. I would have to admit to being in the middle of several of those threads… and I can appreciate the spirited discussion, but if you start em like that… I am just saying you should help moderate them!!

-- Who is John Galt?

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#12 posted 07-08-2014 04:17 PM

Totally agree.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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