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Barta

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07-01-2014 06:43 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw new shop tool power tool delta ridgid

Hello – I’m a very green woodworker and am looking to buy my first “real” table saw. I’ve made a few pieces of furniture and a few small projects, but fumbling around with a ~$100 craftsman is getting old.

I’m focused on 2 options.

1- new RIDGID R4512, assuming I can get the HF discount, should be around $450 from Home Depot.

2- used Delta 34-445 with a bunch of accessories. http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/4495616113.html

This seems like a great deal but I’ve seen people say to wait around for killer deals (like $350 or less). I don’t want to insult or lowball too hard but I don’t know just how good a deal it is with the accessories.

Any input is welcome! These are the two I’m looking at but open to other suggestions. Thanks!


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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 07-01-2014 06:49 PM

Search the reviews tab for those 2 models. You will probably see more feedback there than you will get here.

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#2 posted 07-01-2014 08:00 PM

Doesn’t seem like that great a deal, to me. Maybe not over-priced, but NOT a “run-right-over” price, either.

Good tools and accessories, but not a raging bargain.

Me, I’d wait.

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#3 posted 07-01-2014 08:54 PM

I’d go for the delta. It has a lot of nice accessories included, like a router table and router, mobile base, outfeed table, etc. Plus it has a unifence, which is one of the better ones.

The 4512 doesn’t hold a candle to that delta.

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#4 posted 07-01-2014 09:16 PM

$600 seems like a lot for a contractor saw, but the way it’s set up with those hold downs and the router setup would get you off to a great start. If you don’t have to rip thick boards on a regular basis I’d consider it, but off a touch less.

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#5 posted 07-01-2014 09:18 PM

Do you have some pics of your craftsman? Unless it’s one of the newer “plastic” ones, I don’t think this will be quite the upgrade you are hoping for. That Delta is pretty interesting though.

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#6 posted 07-01-2014 09:40 PM

I would go with the Delta. That coupled with the Delta fence and a large Bosch router would make this a very reasonable deal in my opinion. I believe that this would be a much better saw than the rRdgid.

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#7 posted 07-01-2014 09:53 PM

I’ve got that Delta. Mine is actually a Rockwell/Delta. Purchased it new around 1990?? maybe. It’s been a good saw. Original cost around $500. This one has a better fence and it comes with a lot of extras the guy has added on. Mine has been a very good saw over the years. No issues with it. Hope that helps.

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#8 posted 07-01-2014 10:24 PM

Tigger – I think this would probably qualify as a “newer plastic one” – http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-evolv-15-amp-10-in-table-saw/p-00928461000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3

I really appreciate all the input, I think I’m going to be nice and ask for a lower price, see what happens. I have a trim router, but having the Bosch with table ready to go – that might put it over the top for me.

Can’t hurt to ask for a price cut, seems like at $500, this would be a no-brainer.

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#9 posted 07-01-2014 10:32 PM

Haha, yep. That is probably the worst one of them all. Enjoy your new Delta.

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#10 posted 07-01-2014 11:55 PM

$600 for the Delta is too high IMO for an older style right tilt saw with an outboard motor, no riving knife, and no warranty. At the right price, it might be a solid choice, but I’d at least look at the new Delta 36-725 before making a decision. Be prepared to walk from the old Delta if necessary to get a fair price…..you can always go back if you really want it.

There’s also an even older 1hp Unisaw for $400. It needs a little TLC if you’re up to it, but it’s got a ton of potential. http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/4531762867.html

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Barta

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#11 posted 07-02-2014 11:18 AM

Thanks so much for all the replies! I asked for a lower price, we’ll see what happens.

Now though, I’m looking at this one – http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/tls/4546889098.html

Is this pretty good? Cast iron table and extensions it looks like, 3ph belt drive, and Biesemeyer fence. Am I missing something? Good deal if I can get it down to $200-250?

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#12 posted 07-02-2014 12:20 PM

It’s not 3HP. It’s ~1.5HP. They pulled the old “measure HP for a millisecond during startup and claim that’s the sustained rating” trick. See shop vacs and routers for the worst offenders in this regard.

Other than that, that’s a good saw. I think $250 would be a great price, considering they replaced the (crappy) original fence with something really good.

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#13 posted 07-02-2014 12:24 PM

There is no way it is 3hp if it is running on 110v. Make sure to check.

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Barta

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#14 posted 07-02-2014 01:34 PM

Well yeah its running 110v, so 1.5 it is. That being said, I think I’m going to pull the trigger. Seller wants $270 lowest, which still seems like a great deal for the fence upgrade and cast iron top/ext. Wish me luck!

Thanks so much for all the input! Great first experience on LJ :)

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#15 posted 07-02-2014 02:01 PM

Barta, the delta set up, since it includes the router with all of the add on’s is a good deal, shoot for $500 and see how the haggling goes but to have all the customized features with the delta, you’re really well equipped from the get go because if you totaled up the items, material and the time to put it all together, it’s a steal. As for the second one that is a saw made by Emerson that was labeled with both the craftsman badge and the ridgid brand. I own that saw with an upgraded fence and it has been a very good saw for me because I purchased it as a floor model at the Depot. On my saw I then spent several $100 more on parts etc. to outfit my router wing mobile base etc.

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