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Forum topic by DrawnWright posted 06-29-2014 04:05 PM 1999 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DrawnWright

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06-29-2014 04:05 PM

Hey everyone,

I’m brand-spanking new to Lumberjocks after far too many years reading and stealing ideas. So I thought I’d keep on stealing your thoughts with my question: I’m in the market for either a new or good used bandsaw, and where can I get one around the Ottawa region? I live up in the Arctic (Iqaluit), and I sold my 14” Delta last year, and have done very little woodworking without it. I tried the Neandertal path, but that stops being very fun way too fast when you have to resaw anything more than a couple inches. Everything else I do by hand, but I give up on resawing: I want a bandsaw!

I want something that can handle 12” or more, and I’m not doing the 14” Delta with riser route after working like that for 10 years. It’s too top heavy and wobbly, so whenever I resawed thick lumber, I ended up almost pushing the saw over! So, I’ve been looking at the Lagunas very seriously, but I don’t want to get the 14 SUV if it turns out to be just a heavier Delta. The 18 3000 looks nice, but after a nice blade, I’m over 2500 bucks. Is it worth it? I have a lot of rough-sawn maple and oak that I want to use, so I need a bandsaw that can handle resawing 13” comfortably.

I should say too that I don’t have a thicknesser, nor a jointer, and I’m comfortable using the saw to take their places…which I’ve done happily for over 10 years.

My total budget is around 2500 CAD, and since I have to ship by boat whatever I get and have no access to parts, I’m a little leery of buying a used machine. Plus, I probably won’t be able to fly down to Ottawa to take a look before I buy, so that’s why I’m leaning towards a new machine…I’d love your input!

Jonathan


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Dabcan

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#1 posted 06-30-2014 01:55 AM

I don’t know of anyone selling Laguna or Delta bandsaw in the Ottawa area. I’m partial to General, not likely to have any problems with a used general, although they are a bit harder to find. Check out Marksmach.com he is on the West side of town and does new and used. Just outside of Perth (1hour SW) is a store called Cardon Tools (you’ll have to google it). They sell new and surplus machines and sometimes stock delta, always have General International stuff which is decent but a bit pricey compared to other brands of comparable quality.

There is also Busy Bee but I don’t like the Ottawa store, always feels like I’m at a used car dealership for some reason.

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Manitario

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#2 posted 06-30-2014 04:35 AM

canadianwoodworker.com
tegstools.com
http://www.marksmach.com/
http://www.felder-group.ca/ca-us/jointer-planersjointersplaners.html
http://www.brettwood.com/
http://www.fordmachinery.com/

I’ve dealt with a number of these Ontario tool dealers and they’re all excellent.

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Loren

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#3 posted 06-30-2014 04:54 AM

Jack Forsberg is in Ottawa. He’s a well-known machinery
restorer known for dazzling restorations of old English
made machines. He may know a lot about where a
good older saw can be had in the area. He’s not
a member here… check sawmill creek or the Canadian
Woodworking forum.

I know you’re looking at new, but you should know there
have been complaints about motors going out on the
Laguna saws. One member here from Hawaii was
real frustrated with one that broke at least twice
and parts took awhile to get.

I think Laguna makes a good saw. Sometimes those
European machines have proprietary motors of some
sort and they also have these switch systems with
relays on the doors that can get fouled up. So
the electrics on the new steel frame saws tend
to be more complex to work on than the simple
older machines.

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Paul

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#4 posted 06-30-2014 05:35 AM

This is probably me being completely ignorant on your location. I presume that you have 220v for a 2hp+ motor if your asking about 220v saws?

Just checking before my suggestions become invalid without the proper info.

Paul

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DrawnWright

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#5 posted 06-30-2014 01:51 PM

Thanks, guys, for all of your suggestions. I looked at the sites you mentioned, Manitario, but nothing blew me away.

Loren, I’ve read a lot of complaints about CS for Laguna, and I could only imagine my remoteness only adding to that headache. We only get goods by 5 ships in the summer, or by plane the rest of the year. No roads. So anything that I don’t manage to get boated in, gets flown in at ridiculous expense. I’m hoping to get a nice saw this summer. I actually thought the Delta X5 I had with its 1.75 HP motor was ample powerwise, I just hated its topheavy feel, and the upper guides had to be readjusted anytime I changed the depth of cut.

So I’d be happiest with a nice, heavy machine, even if it didn’t come with a massive motor. Paul, yes, we do have 220 here- we’re powered by some big diesel generators, and have normal North American 120 V, 60 Hz power. I currently don’t have 220 in my tiny shop (which is a seacan I converted), but if there’s a saw begging me to put it in, then I’ll do it!

One thing I’ve learned about bandsaws, since it was my only real stationary tool for over 10 years, was that it’s the blade that does the cutting, not the saw. So long as the wheels are coplanar and running true, and you can get proper tension, you’re off to the races. I’m a little worried that splurging for Laguna saws is a bit of waste since I need to get a nice blade anyway…the 14 SUV seems like a small saw with a massive motor. Can it really resaw 14” lumber without falling over?

Thanks for your all of your help.

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Paul

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#6 posted 06-30-2014 05:57 PM

If you’re going to be re sawing 14” yes the blade is important but that’s a lot of material. I would be looking at a 220v 3hp motor at the minimum. A 1.75hp 110v motor will eventually get through the material but your putting a lot of stress on the smaller motor. I would think if your consistently working with material over 10” you will be replacing the motor before long. Being in a remote location down time is much longer on machine repair.

Just my 2 cents,

Paul

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DrawnWright

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#7 posted 06-30-2014 09:40 PM

Paul, I hear you. I do plan on using it for a lot of resawing, and since I use the bandsaw as my “thicknesser” too, it sees a lot of work.

I think I will go the 220v route, and the 18” 3000 Laguna seems to be calling out to me…telling me to give them all my money!

Thanks.

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#8 posted 06-30-2014 10:06 PM

Drawn- Im in NB. I did not have a good experience with Busy Bee. I returned the BS I bought from them and ended up purchasing a Rikon 10-325 from Canadian Woodworker. They are in BC but have free shipping occasionally.

Good luck

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Loren

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#9 posted 06-30-2014 10:24 PM

I think it may be a better value to buy 1” carbon steel
blade coil (Laguna sells this) and solder blades up yourself.

Tipped blades are great but you can get 100ft of 1”
resaw blade coil for the same money.

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DrawnWright

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#10 posted 07-01-2014 09:28 PM

Sandra, yep, I’m going to stay my distance from Busy Bee. Even their name doesn’t instill confidence! I looked at the specs of the machine you have- are you happy with it? It seems light for an 18” bandsaw, but numbers are just that til you use it.

Loren, I’m a bit of a convert to carbide blades after using a Lenox tri-master as my only blade for over 5 years. And it still cut like new. Do you do a lot of resawing with the carbon steel blades? How do they perform? If I can get seven blades out of 100’, and a carbide lasts as long as seven blades, then I’d rather go with the carbide since I won’t have to solder. (Never done it by the way!)

Thanks guys and gals.

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Homick

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#11 posted 07-01-2014 10:56 PM

Ottawa Fastener Supply sells Laguna Tools … had a few of their bandsaws on the floor last year at their taxfree sale. They are probably still a distributor.

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Dabcan

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#12 posted 07-01-2014 11:53 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot about Ottawa Fastener. I really like them, have bought a few tools from them over the years, it’s just they are on the other side of town from me. Highly recommended.

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Sandra

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#13 posted 07-02-2014 02:21 AM

Drawn, yes I’m very happy with my machine, considering the price. I think I got what I paid for. It’s actually a 14” not 18. Resaw capacity of 13”.

It took me a considerable amount of time, effort and frustration getting it set up to resaw, partly user error and the motor pulley had to be adjusted away from the frame. With that sorted out and a Woodslicer blade, it does all the resawing I need it to do. I’ve done hard maple, but haven’t maxed out on size yet.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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Paul

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#14 posted 07-02-2014 03:21 AM

I’m sure the Rikon 14” is a fine saw with a 14” re saw capacity. The Laguna the OP is considering is over 200lbs heavier with a 4hp motor. In my mind there’s really no comparing the 2, apples vrs oranges.

Almost like comparing a contractor table saw to a cabinet saw. just my 2 cents.

Paul

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Loren

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#15 posted 07-02-2014 03:48 AM

I’m not as impressed as you are with how sharp tipped
resaw blades remain.

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