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06-27-2014 01:14 PM

Topic tags/keywords: resource

edited by me…grizzman.

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']


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lew

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#1 posted 06-27-2014 01:43 PM

Bob,
I guess us “old timers” are the only ones who understand the change.
Seems most folks come and go within a year or so. They really don’t have an investment in this site. Maybe the owners of LumberJocks understand this and feel the “noobs” won’t really care about the changes.
I think once the site went from family owned to corporate owned, these type of changes were inevitable.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#2 posted 06-27-2014 01:47 PM

yea lew you’re right, its very sad for me, this place has been an important place because of the many great people i have become friends with, a big investment of my time…but i’ve said all i’m going to say, im sure this is how its going to be, and i shall now need to find a new home…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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JADobson

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#3 posted 06-27-2014 01:51 PM

I think the moderators should take careful note of this post and remember that without the input of us members they have nothing. We give them all their content for free. The site’s owners contribute nothing but infrastructure.

-- James

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#4 posted 06-27-2014 02:31 PM

Grizz,

I personally plan to just quietly go away.

I’m considering deleting my few projects and workshop, since projets and workshops remain editable forever.

Otherwise, they will continue to use all your projects for advertisement.

I think with the new European law, European users will have the right to force the site to delete every post they ever made from the site. This might also apply to any posts made by people living anywhere while the site was under European ownership and control – which it was until recently.

-Paul

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helluvawreck

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#5 posted 06-27-2014 02:45 PM

Grizz, I noticed these ads this week and I agree that they go to far when they put advertising in our posts. The ads on the right sides and bottom don’t bother me that much. However, I sure don’t want to see you go and I hope that you will stay. You mean a lot to a lot of people here including me so I hope that you will stick around here. We don’t want to see you go.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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BinghamtonEd

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#6 posted 06-27-2014 02:48 PM

I guess I’ll be the odd man out, and say that I don’t think the ads are that bad. I don’t have things popping up, and they don’t detract from the content I’m seeing. Yeah, there’s some ad space at the top, and some on the side. A word might be highlighted in blue, but if I don’t hold the mouse over it, it doesn’t do anything.

As for the moderators providing nothing but infrastructure, I disagree. Having been a moderator on another motorcycling forum, there’s more behind the scenes that goes on to making things run. It’s not a “set it and forget it” job. How many times has this site been down and out? Not many in the 3 or so years I’ve been a member.

Regarding “IT WAS NEVER LIKE THIS, AND ITS NOT NEEDED TO PAY THEIR BILLS, THEY MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY ALREADY”...do you have data to back that up? Do you know the costs associated with maintaining a forum? How much does the server space cost? What about software upgrades? Increasing bandwidth? Data backup? I don’t think anybody is riding high on the cash hog here. And what if someone is making some money? They’re doing work. While using this forum may be a fun hobby, maintaining it is work.

While it would be great to have a site with absolutely no ads, you’re expecting something for nothing, or you’re expecting someone to take on all the responsibility of doing the work and not get paid for it. The internet is full of ads, and by comparison, this site is light on the ads.

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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#7 posted 06-27-2014 02:49 PM

Whether anyone wants to admit it, Martin loved woodworking, but he started the site with the idea of making money. When available, he chose to sell it (probably for a decent profit). His new website is also designed to make him money. To the participants, it is and has always been about woodworking. To the owners present and past, it was and always will be about making money. That is usually the reason for any business.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#8 posted 06-27-2014 02:52 PM

I am not trying to change anyone’s opinion, but I don’t get it. I see the ad links, but its just blue text. I learned really quick not put move my cursor over that.

Is just the principle?

Or do other browsers make this more of a hindrance?

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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William

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#9 posted 06-27-2014 03:00 PM

I think it has a LOT to do with what kind of ad blocker you have.
I am getting popups but no sidebar ads on my iphone.
On the computer, running chrome with ad blocker, I get neither.

-- http://wddsrfinewoodworks.blogspot.com/

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ducky911

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#10 posted 06-27-2014 03:01 PM

It is more than ads for me. When I look at someones project comments random words are blue and it takes me to odd ads to sell me things like paper towels.

No other site is doing this

If this is here to stay I am gone.

sawmill site does not do this

Bob

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#11 posted 06-27-2014 03:04 PM

Changed my mind on this post.

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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helluvawreck

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#12 posted 06-27-2014 03:04 PM

I can see a problem about someone else putting links in your post. Even though they are slightly different from a regular link they can discourage some people from clicking on links that the poster puts in the post thinking that they are an advertisement. Of course the site should make money and ads are everywhere on the internet. The ads to the right and to the bottom are not a big problem and there’s plenty of room for ads without resorting to putting ads in the posts. I can live with them but I just would prefer they didn’t put ads inside the posts.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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Monte Pittman

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#13 posted 06-27-2014 03:05 PM

Lots of other sites do this. Like Fox news, CNN and ESPN. The sites that are not doing it simply haven’t figured out how to make money at it.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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BinghamtonEd

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#14 posted 06-27-2014 03:05 PM

Does the blue text do anything if you don’t leave the cursor over it? I don’t pay attention to the blue text and I get no adds coming up over them. Kind of like going to the doctor and saying “It hurts when I do this.”

-- - The mightiest oak in the forest is just a little nut that held its ground.

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helluvawreck

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#15 posted 06-27-2014 03:11 PM

Well there’s one good thing about it – if you don’t want the ad to popup you don’t have to hover over it. At least that is a comfort.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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