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Forum topic by DylanC posted 06-25-2014 02:39 AM 2228 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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DylanC

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06-25-2014 02:39 AM

Most if this is a repost from my Unisaw vs. PM 66 thread, but I wanted to get a few more LJ opinions on the value of used tools. All of these were just sold on a local auction site. The tools were pulled from the Industrial Arts shops in the local middle schools. I was hoping to get a few Powermatic tools at a bit of a bargain, but from what I can see, most of them went for more than I thought they were worth. What do you guys think? Prices shown do NOT include a 10% “buyer’s fee” or the 7% sales tax.

Two Ryobi DP80 benchtop drill presses, $180 and $300.

Powermatic 1150 Drill press, $380

Rockwell Delta 15-655 Drill Press, $230

Six Powermatic Model 95 20” Scroll Saws, $51-$105

Delta 36-714 Unisaw, $305.

Powermatic Model 66 (1996), $1000.

Old Rockwell Delta band saw, $205

And the tool I REALLY wanted but didn’t even bid half of what it finally sold for…
A Powermatic 141 Band Saw, $1000

If nothing else, at least the money went to a good cause (the local school district).

-- Dylan C ...Seems like all ever I make is sawdust...


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bigblockyeti

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#1 posted 06-25-2014 02:46 AM

The two Ryobi drill presses aren’t worth 1/3 of what they sold for. The Powermatic drill press is a good deal if it’s all working correctly. The Delta more of a deal due to the price. Not too sure about the scroll saws as they’re outside of my area of expertise. The Unisaw, even if it has a three phase motor is a great deal. The PM66 is about par for what I see good examples go for. The Delta bandsaw is probably a good deal if it works correctly and is single phase. The Powermatic 141 seems like it went a little to a lot high. Did the school district eliminate the Industrial Arts program or update their tools?

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DylanC

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#2 posted 06-25-2014 02:50 AM

Cut the program…only available in high schools now. I guess there’s too much learnin’ going on to teach kids how to actually do something. I don’t understand how all the policy makers can be pushing more education in Engineering (the E in STEM) and not want to teach kinds how to build what they design. All book learning with no practical application, I guess.

-- Dylan C ...Seems like all ever I make is sawdust...

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bigblockyeti

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#3 posted 06-25-2014 03:10 AM

That’s pretty disappointing, Industrial Arts was my favorite class in 5th through 8th grade.

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#4 posted 06-25-2014 03:52 AM

The unisaw should have went higher so I would have either bought it or at the very least I would have someone else pay a decent price. Otherwise no real outstanding deals I could see. My opinion the pm66 went way too high.

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#5 posted 06-25-2014 03:56 AM

The delta bandsaw would have been a decent buy if it were not bright yellow.

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#6 posted 06-25-2014 05:30 AM

Powermatic drill press is worth it for a shop that needs that
kind of drill press. Otherwise, those prices are on the high side.

Observe how a Unisaw went for peanuts and PM66 missing
the door went for a grand…. what you could get a real
14” industrial saw for at auction.

That’s a high price for a 141 but it’s a fine saw.

Sometimes people want to just get a tool and they’ll
use it forever. The time cost of selling and buying and
moving upgrade machinery can add up. I’ve done it
a fair bit and I’m worn out for the time being.

The heavier the iron the less it goes for, by the pound.
The real bargains are found in the stuff that’s intimidating
to move.

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TheWoodenOyster

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#7 posted 06-25-2014 06:15 AM

Loren is spot on. My Powermatic 81, which is much larger than the 141 was $1000. I guess I got a heavy discount. And it is heavy….

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

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#8 posted 06-25-2014 12:04 PM

Unisaw was underpriced by a little, everything else overpriced by a lot IMO.

On the other hand, plenty of people obviously felt otherwise, since they bought them. Things are worth what people will pay for them, after all.

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AnonymousRequest

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#9 posted 06-25-2014 02:46 PM

Auction sale prices depend on the volume of people bidding and what’s in demand. The 2 Ryobi went very high, $50 each maybe would be their value. Whoever bought the Powermatic and Rockwell/D drill presses got a deal. I’ve seen these list and sell for twice the amount. The scrollsaw sales prices are probably about average. Whoever bought the Unisaw, got a deal. I’ve seen these sell for 500-1400. The Powermatic 66 ts sale price doesn’t surprise me. At 205, for a sale price of the Rockwell/d bandsaw, it’s a deal. This has the art-deco base which would sell for more than 205 alone. The saw without the base 250-400. The Powermatic 141 bs went a bit high, but is becoming more rare. Many people want old USA made machines for many reasons. I think old Powermatic prices are going to be higher because more people want it and there’s less of it. IMHO

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nicksmurf111

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#10 posted 06-27-2014 08:12 PM

From personal experience, I’ve seen councilors push arts and vo-tech as easy outs. In my school, we even had some folks push-back and some students were allowed to get out of the algebra class and take a practical math class. The students need their time in class to learn math, science, reading. If their father’s can’t pick up where they left off in school, shame on them. My 4 year old already knows his way around the wrenches and hammers. Although, I do have a feeling that the sift is toward preparing for standardized testing, which I totally disagree with.


Cut the program…only available in high schools now. I guess there s too much learnin going on to teach kids how to actually do something. I don t understand how all the policy makers can be pushing more education in Engineering (the E in STEM) and not want to teach kinds how to build what they design. All book learning with no practical application, I guess.

- DylanC

Those are nice drill presses. I would have bid on either of them. Most everything else except the Unisaw was way overpriced.

-- Nicholas

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Richard H

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#11 posted 06-27-2014 08:25 PM

For those prices the Unisaw is the only thing that I would have been interested in depending on how bad that rust looked in person. The Delta bandsaw wasn’t a bad price but it wasn’t a bargain either. The rest of that stuff seems pretty high to me.

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