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06-21-2014 03:05 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw

I came across an interesting article about new Delta contractor saw offerings. It looks like they may be pricing to compete with the Jet ProShop.

http://www.protoolreviews.com/tools/power/corded/saws/delta-contractor-saw-preview-2014/11409/

-- paxorion


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#1 posted 06-22-2014 04:10 PM

The Delta contractors saw I have used was a real disappointment compared to a Unisaw.

-- Jim from Kansas

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#2 posted 06-22-2014 04:34 PM

Right now I wouldn’t touch Delta tools with a 20 ft pole. In recent years Delta has been sold so many time it’s not funny. Delta now is just another overseas import tool.

Over the past year or so since the new owner have taken over Delta I see tons of complaints about no customer service, no parts and if you take their rebate carrot you’ll probably never get it or many say it takes up to a year to get it.

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#3 posted 06-22-2014 09:30 PM

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#4 posted 06-22-2014 10:52 PM

It looks like they are offering a few upgrades to the unit they currently offer at Lowes, like a one piece rail.

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#5 posted 07-08-2014 07:18 PM

A bit more details on the new offerings seem to be trickling down. The only offerings I see listed (currently) are on the Home Depot and Amazon website. The pricing and marketing approach is screaming Jet ProShop competitor.

I’m trying to put up what I know as to the differences when compared to the Delta 36-725 offered by Lowes:

  • Model 36-5000 ($1099) – 15A motor, one piece 30” right hand rip capacity fence rail, dual rip windows for the fence, blade brake, 2.5” → 4” dust port adapter, 3 stamped steel extension wings (1 left, 2 right), 230 lbs (+32 from 36-725)
  • Model 36-5052 ($1299) – 15A motor, one piece 52” right hand rip capacity fence rail, dual rip windows for the fence, blade brake, 2.5” → 4” dust port adapter, 2 stamped steel extension wings (1 left, 1 right), extension board and support legs, 245lbs (+47 from 36-725)
  • Model 36-5100 ($1299) – 15A motor, one piece 30” right hand rip capacity fence rail, dual rip windows for the fence, blade brake, 2.5” → 4” dust port adapter, 2 cast iron extension wings (1 left, 1 right), 1 stamped steel extension wing (1 right), 260lbs (+62 from 36-725)
  • Model 36-5152 ($1499) – 15A motor, one piece 52” right hand rip capacity fence rail, dual rip windows for the fence, blade brake, 2.5” → 4” dust port adapter, 2 cast iron extension wings (1 left, 1 right), extension board and support legs, 305 lbs (+107 from 36-725)

-- paxorion

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#6 posted 07-08-2014 09:20 PM

IMHO, too expensive for what you get.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#7 posted 07-09-2014 03:16 AM



IMHO, too expensive for what you get.

- NiteWalker

That is where my thoughts are leaning, but I’m going to wait and see more information before coming to any closer to a conclusion.

-- paxorion

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#8 posted 07-09-2014 03:32 AM


IMHO, too expensive for what you get.

- NiteWalker

That is where my thoughts are leaning, but I m going to wait and see more information before coming to any closer to a conclusion.

- paxorion

This is my thinking as well, the fact that every delta versions are considerably lighter warrants some concern from me. Maybe it’s the tubular frame? More weight to me means less vibration. Tubular framing I would think would introduce vibration.

The blade break is a nice concept, although I don’t know how it works on a table saw yet. This seems in my mind the only real difference in the new delta line verses the proven proshop’s.

I will hold off any skepticism until more info is available.

Paul

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#9 posted 07-09-2014 03:35 AM

Also the jet’s are available on amazon at or below cost of the delta’s with free shipping. I have not yet inquired about delta’s shipping on the new units.

Paul

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#10 posted 07-09-2014 04:04 AM

The only Delta that is currently listed on Amazon has free shipping. It is still slightly undercutting the Jet price ($1099 for 30” rip with steel wings vs $1199).

Delta 36-5000: http://www.amazon.com/Delta-36-5000-10-Inch-Contractor-30-Inch/dp/B00LHUWA50
Jet Proshop JPS-10TS: http://www.amazon.com/Jet-708492K-JPS-10TS-10-inch-Tablesaw/dp/B007HC6ZUI/

Looking at these two comparables for 30” rip capacity…
  • The Jet does seem to have a 20-30lb weight advantage at 252 lbs (steel wings) or 292 lbs (cast iron wings)
  • The Jet has an enclosed cabinet, which I would venture to guess provides better dust collection than a 2.5” dust port. Will have to wait and see if that is changed in any way for the Delta.

-- paxorion

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#11 posted 07-09-2014 04:30 AM

Ok, I admit I only looked at the 52” rip price range and specs. For this price I wouldn’t consider shipping to be a game changer.

I would consider this new line a consumer prototype and proceed with caution. 50lbs is a big difference on a contractor saw high end vrs high end.

I will follow this,

Paul

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#12 posted 07-09-2014 09:26 AM


IMHO, too expensive for what you get.

- NiteWalker

Ditto…..at that price, they have to be better, or offer more for the money than the Jet Proshop, Grizzly G0715P, Laguna Fusion, Baleigh, Rikon, Steel City, Shop Fox hybrids, and Grizzly 3hp cabinet saws. At $600 the 35-725 offers what seems like a good bang for the buck compared to other new $600 saws, but if that’s the main design of the other saws, what advantage do they offer over the competition at those prices? Of course, you do get all the benefit of having the Delta name plate on the front of the saw, with the full support of Cheng Type Ltd. ;-)

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#13 posted 07-09-2014 05:26 PM

I’m not touchin’ any new Delta stuff. Pure price point machines with limited customer support.
Might be ok for a hobby user, but….............
Bill

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#14 posted 07-19-2014 03:37 AM


... with the full support of Cheng Type Ltd. ;-)

- knotscott

You mean Chang Type, who probably makes at least half the saws you mentioned.

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#15 posted 07-19-2014 03:48 AM


... with the full support of Cheng Type Ltd. ;-)

- knotscott

You mean Chang Type, who probably makes at least half the saws you mentioned.

- Rick M.

“Probably” sure holds a lot of ground with me. Strike down every manufacturer because they “probably”!

Paul

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