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Forum topic by Loren posted 06-20-2014 01:40 AM 1460 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-20-2014 01:40 AM

I was asked to ballpark this today. Everything in plastic laminate. The center of the console is a big glowing light table. Everything but the chairs, the big TV and the paint job on the floor.

The guy didn’t sound too pleased when I told him the figure. I thought I was being pretty reasonable, but I’d like to know how you would bid a job like this, if you sincerely wanted to do it, for money and/or the experience and portfolio shots.

And yes, the base of that console is compound curves on every side so it will need to be roughed out, smoothed with body filler, sanded and lacquered to look right.


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#1 posted 06-20-2014 01:42 AM

I’m looking at $28000.

Edit: that doesn’t include lighting.

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#2 posted 06-20-2014 01:48 AM

Good answer.

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#3 posted 06-20-2014 02:45 AM

I would be between 30-40k depending on the time frame. The time that they need it done in my mind speaks more to the price than the difficult techniques required to get the job done.

Personally, a set like this would take me 4-6 months to do not including design(If I had to do that, price would go up and an additional 2 weeks tacked on)

The 4-6months is a big ball park window without knowing more specifics, probably a bit longer than a production shop would take but I’m a one man show.

Paul

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#4 posted 06-20-2014 06:10 AM

Ha. I said 20k. I know full well it’s a 40k+ build from
a big outfit.

Maybe they’ll come up with something less involved to execute.

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#5 posted 06-20-2014 06:17 AM

If you feel like they aren’t going to give you the job at a level of compensation that you want, you might be able to keep them “happy” (happy customers are return customers) by suggesting that they look into having a plastic injection moulding outfit make most or all of those parts. It looks to be some type of stage or set for a recording studio so i doubt anything but the table will ever get touched except by a feather duster. Having everything cast out of ABS plastic or something may not be cheap but it might be more accurate considering the ridiculous shape.

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#6 posted 06-20-2014 06:25 AM

We talked about that a bit… maybe vacu-forming or something,
but I don’t know much about that tech. I did say
something like “yeah I can work with plastics but I’m
not set up to bend them into compound curves.
You’d have to ask the plastics guys.”

I think it was just designed by somebody who didn’t have
any realistic idea about what it costs to make curvy
stuff.

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#7 posted 06-20-2014 12:46 PM

It looks cool. Make sure the PITA charge is applied…

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#8 posted 06-20-2014 01:49 PM

KBS is a Korean broadcast service so that’s most likely for a news or politics show.

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#9 posted 06-20-2014 03:13 PM

Between $40K and $50K.

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#10 posted 06-20-2014 03:23 PM

The guy didn’t sound too pleased at $20k? What was he expecting???

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#11 posted 06-20-2014 03:31 PM

I’m surprised how many ball park prices have been given.
I can’t even tell how big it is,
what the materials are, (plastic laminate could be 1.50 a ft – ?)
What the whole scope of the job is.
Where it’s at, 2nd floor, stairs

Are those chrome strips on the curved corner walls, Stainless??
But what the hell…25,000 no wait, I’m high end, lets say 45,000….

Regardless of the above, I think 20 grand would have been low and don’t think he will get it done any cheaper anywhere else.

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#12 posted 06-20-2014 03:37 PM

There are lots of small custom thermoforming shops around. You might be able to make the molds and save a few bucks. I am guessing $40K is going to be the real number.

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#13 posted 06-20-2014 04:13 PM

Having been through this type of thing years back, it sounds to me like you are working with a designer who doesn’t do much of this and isn’t familiar with the costs. Those who have been at it a while have passed the “sticker shock” phase and are used to hearing the cost figures. It might be good to point him to a top end expensive shop and suggest he get a competitive bid. Yes you take a chance of losing him, but he is going to get another bid from somebody. At lease let him see the high end.

Planeman

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#14 posted 06-20-2014 04:33 PM

Iwud4u + 1

I would need more info other than the one picture to even begin to figure a price.

I would never give a “ball park” guess on a project like that.l They would have to give me a “ball park” guess on their budget and nail down more details ( the overall size would be a good starting point, materials and finishes other than Plastic laminate and all the little details that can’t be seen, but you can bet your butt they will add on before it’s all said an done.

If they are really serious about having something like that built, they also have some sort of budget in mind.

Put the ball back in their court!

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#15 posted 06-20-2014 08:16 PM

He was just finishing for a fantasy price I think. He’s probably
already called around.

A couple years ago somebody asked me to bid a laminate
counter thing for a cell-phone store in the middle of a mall,
sort of like a cosmetics counter I suppose. It had curves.
So I gave him a reasonable bid at like $200/lf minus the glass
and never hear back.

Few months later I get a desperate call from the same
guy… he didn’t say so but I recognized his voice or number.
The guys he hired were totally in over their heads and
were making a mess of it. He wanted me to rush down
there first thing in the morning to take a look…. I told
him I could do it at 10 and that’s the last I heard.

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