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Forum topic by jrsox posted 06-18-2014 05:07 PM 954 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jrsox

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06-18-2014 05:07 PM

Topic tags/keywords: stain treated wood

Just finished two benches that will go beside my patio slab. They each have four legs made from treated 4×4s. They will go about 14 inches in the ground. The wood is still very wet. Should I go ahead and stain the legs anyway before I put them in the ground? They will be difficult to get to after installation. Thanks in advance for any advice.

-- John in Lansing


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#1 posted 06-18-2014 06:17 PM

If you are speaking of wet, treated wood that came from Lowe’s or HD or one of the other home centers, it should have been let sit for weeks or months to dry.
It is going to warp, sway and make curly Q’s as it dries, not to mention the shrinkage.

I take it you don’t read much on this site before you start a project? I am not certain but I think you might have just wasted your money.

Sorry, I don’t like giving bad news.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#2 posted 06-18-2014 06:38 PM

Actually I do read a lot of posts from this site before I start any project. That is why I let all the wood sit in the sun for 6 weeks before I started the project. I appreciate all advice I’ve gotten from this site. The vast majority of members try their best to give good solid advice to new comers and those who have been doing this for years. You may not like giving bad news, but you didn’t mind being sarcastic.

-- John in Lansing

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#3 posted 06-18-2014 06:47 PM

Ok, try this test, drive a screw into the wood…..if water comes up, still too wet. Most times, it will be about fall if you start it in the springtime.

IF it hasn’t warpped by now, it won’t any more. Stain them IF you want to. then check the results later. Be sure the 4×4 s are rated for ground contact, as not all 4×4s are rated for be in the ground.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#4 posted 06-18-2014 06:50 PM

I wasn’t being sarcastic. Just honest. If you had chosen to read up on treated lumber you would have seen that in the last couple of decades or so, the type of wood has changed, the type of chemical they infuse the wood with and the method they use is a bit different.

Before getting your panties in a wad look to make certain you know of what you speak.

Even simply asking one of the people you know on here might have helped a lot.

I never get sarcastic anymore, but I will always tell it like I see it and always tell the truth.

If you had asked me I would have sent you a few pictures or the warped 6X6’s we put up for power posts in the sites at the RV park a few years ago. I also have pictures of warped and Curly Q’ed deck boards the boss put in because he was too cheap to put in quality wood.

If you ask a question, expect an honest answer, maybe not one you want to hear, but honest.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#5 posted 06-18-2014 07:11 PM

Thanks. I never heard of the screw test. I’ll give it a try. I did do the water test and the results were not good. No warping yet. Thanks for the ground tip as well.

-- John in Lansing

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#6 posted 06-18-2014 07:44 PM

bandit571, Are you serious? We put our pedestals in in July and within 3 days they were so warped you wouldn’t have used them.
This home center crap is mostly cores from the mill. We even have some 1” deck boards that are nothing but the core, (or pith), if you choose that term.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#7 posted 06-19-2014 01:37 AM

Yep. I’m serious. Of course, IF one doesn’t pick through that stack of green tinted lumbe, one will get a lot of boards that WILL warp.

Added a front and back step to the house awhile back. Both treated 2×10s are still flat as can be. Have yet to even start a warp. Went past a LUMBER lumberyard, one of the better ones in the area. Right out front, on a stack of 6×6 posts, one was curving up at both ends, like a smile.

One thing I try to do, never buy any treated lumber while it is raining. I want the boards nice and dry, and I keep them that way as long as i can. I pick through the stack, ain’t no real rush. And, NO I do NOT let them pick for me, either. These 4×4s that warpped on you, what was the grain like? Or, did you even notice?

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#8 posted 06-19-2014 10:05 AM

Thr grain is all large, not like syp use to be. This is all farm grown junk.They don’t waste anything anymore.

When I was sawing lumber for a living, we only used the center 4-6” as sticker material or risers to get the forklift under the bundles of lumber.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#9 posted 06-10-2016 07:22 PM

Well, it’s been two years since the benches were completed. No warping and they look great! Did have to re-stain them this spring. Now does anyone know how to prevent bird crap on them!

-- John in Lansing

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#10 posted 06-11-2016 04:24 AM

A Daisy Red Ryder, Black Cat firecrackers, a cat that’s not fat & lazy,......

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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