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Forum topic by BenI posted 06-14-2014 12:22 PM 867 views 0 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BenI

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06-14-2014 12:22 PM

Hi all,

Recently started a project and was planning down boards from our fence that is falling apart and I’ll tear down soon.

We assumed it was cedar that had been stained but after planning it, I’ve never seen cedar with amazing grain like that. I don’t know exactly how long the boards were up in the elements for, at least 15-20 years I think. They’ve held up very well with only some very minor cracks and decay at the ends. Three pictures are after planning and one is before, in case it helps.

If more pics, or answering questions will help just let me know.

Thanks for taking a look!

-- Ben from IL


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#1 posted 06-14-2014 12:33 PM

Red cedar

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#2 posted 06-14-2014 01:01 PM

Western red cedar.

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#3 posted 06-14-2014 01:07 PM

Yup, western red cedar…very nice looking lumber for a fence though.

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#4 posted 06-14-2014 02:29 PM

From the color, looks like black walnut, but I can’t imagine anyone building a fence out of black walnut. How soft does the wood seem to be? Maybe the color I see is just from the exposure of the picture. Also with that straight of grain, I think the cedar answers are probably correct.

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#5 posted 06-14-2014 02:36 PM

End views are always helpful but, from what I see, I concur with the others.

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#6 posted 06-14-2014 03:04 PM

Paul- that’s what I thought when I first planned to new exposed wood but like you, be a bad idea to make anything outdoors out of walnut. The grain and general color definitely look like it though.

The general consensus seems to go towards red cedar.

-- Ben from IL

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#7 posted 06-14-2014 03:16 PM

What does it smell like?

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BenI

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#8 posted 06-14-2014 03:27 PM

I haven’t noticed any smell to it

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#9 posted 06-14-2014 03:34 PM

Gotta be WRC. I have seen grain like that in cedar.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#10 posted 06-14-2014 04:01 PM

VGWRC, no doubts…..If no knots, it would be CVGWRC.

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#11 posted 06-14-2014 04:04 PM

Cedar is lighter in density than walnut. Were the boards rough milled or finished. If rough that was how cedar was used. commercial fence boards are generally not as thick, would be rough milled and generally about 6 ft.

Natural walnut has similar hues and patterns to what your pictures show. Can you buy a board of each species to compare?

Nice find. :)

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BenI

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#12 posted 06-14-2014 04:09 PM

dusty56 what does that VG and CVG stand for? I know the rest of it stands for western red cedar.

doc it’s part of a fence that is been on one part of our patio for as long as I can remember but now the posts are starting to fail. I’m pretty sure they’ve been finished with something because they are a pretty dark brown/blackish color til I planned them down. They are under 1” thick, I want to say about 5/8” or so. The pieces are all about 6-7” wide and either 4 or 6 ft. long depends on which part of the fence they are from.

-- Ben from IL

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firefighterontheside

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#13 posted 06-14-2014 04:19 PM

Vertical grain?
Clear vertical grain?

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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#14 posted 06-14-2014 04:19 PM

5/8ths is standard in commercial fence boards. Check out your local box store if available. Walnut would be too expensive to build a fence. :)

Gotta go to work!

Good luck.

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#15 posted 06-14-2014 07:05 PM

If your property is an old farm property it’s possible the previous owner had a walnut tree come down and, not knowing what else to do with it, had it milled and put up a fence. Unfinished and weathered, it could look like the top picture. ..So what kind of property it is could give some additional information.

While not an excellent outdoor wood, walnut can stand up to weather fairly well, especially in ideal conditions, such as not having constant contact with the dirt.

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