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Forum topic by NikkiLaRue posted 06-09-2014 01:33 PM 628 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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NikkiLaRue

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06-09-2014 01:33 PM

While on my way to work Saturday morning I ran across flea market set up in a parking lot. If you know me, then you know I’m gonna stop and look around! Most of the stuff was just high priced junk. As I was on my way be to the truck I see a guy setting two old planes on his table … so here I go! He wanted $20 for both. After talking to him awhile I got both for $10! Not knowing a lot about planes I thought if nothing else they would be cool just to have sitting around the house. Here is what they turned out to be ….. A Sargent Hercules and as far as I can tell a Stanley Defiance ….. So did I do good or not?

-- Nikki


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Hoov

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#1 posted 06-09-2014 01:59 PM

Don’t know about the value… but I really like them!

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#2 posted 06-09-2014 02:03 PM

Sargent is quite a good make in it’s days. For 10 u got it at a steal. It needs repairs to make it usable again. I prefer Stanley for it’s after market parts. The plane above looks okay and very much usable. Is the sole cracked?

Just ask Don on this list for restoration tips. He excels in this work!

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 06-09-2014 02:10 PM

Website: http://timetestedtools.com

Here’s Don’s website ^

Great score.

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NikkiLaRue

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#4 posted 06-09-2014 02:13 PM

As for as I can tell neither of the soles are cracked ….. just rusted

-- Nikki

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#5 posted 06-09-2014 03:28 PM

Defiance and Hercules were both lower priced planes for the respective manufacturers. (Bedrock, Bailey & VBM being the top of the line) That said, the early Defiance planes, like that one, are capable of being really good users.

They have a solid bed & frog design, with a large part of the original “savings” coming from using stained hardwood knob and tote instead of rosewood. From a use perspective, that’s irrelevant. The working parts are all well designed.

I’m not as familiar with the Hercules line, but think it’s a similar story there. For $10, you did good.

-- "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

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7Footer

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#6 posted 06-09-2014 03:57 PM

I’ve got that same Sargent Hercules, and it’s one of my favorite planes, I know the Hercules line weren’t the top of the line planes but tuned up properly they work great. Mine is a #4 size (looks like yours is too) and is a smoother but I have mine set up as a jack and it works very well. The Hercules feels very stout too, good score!

-- Hot Damnit... Your booty like two planets, go ahead and go ham sammich -

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#7 posted 06-09-2014 05:57 PM

Nikki,

Actually a great find! Ebay is a place you can find replacement parts and many others. YouTube has some good videos on hand planes and you can purchase used books on Amazon to learn parts and maintenance. Sharpening a plane blade can take many forms, and costs.

“Blackie” (Randy) suggested I use apple vinegar to remove rust on my Ebay purchases. Again,you can see this technique on YouTube. To save on wasting the apple vinegar I used plastic freezer bags in a shallow pan. White vinegar is not as good, I tried it.

“Stumpy Nubbs” has a simple sharpening video which uses inexpensive materials to get the blade sharp. Oh yeah buy a good BIG flat screw driver blade that fits the plane screws. It will protect the slots when attempting to take the planes apart for clean up.

A good beginning!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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TCCcabinetmaker

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#8 posted 06-09-2014 07:07 PM

The difference in top of the line and not usually is how sharp they come…. Lie Nielson planes/chisels need no tuning/sharpening, while others that will work just as well if you can tune them up will work just as well. As a matter of fact, if you are good enough at it, you can take a piece of crap harbor freight plane and turn it into a good one if you have the skills to do so.

-- The mark of a good carpenter is not how few mistakes he makes, but rather how well he fixes them.

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Don W

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#9 posted 06-09-2014 07:36 PM

Hercules were Sargents last bench planes. For $5 each you did well.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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