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Forum topic by chetrog posted 06-07-2014 04:30 AM 1036 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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chetrog

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06-07-2014 04:30 AM

I am going to be making a basic bench. Just going to use Douglas Fir. I Don’t want the screws to be shown. I want to countersink the screws and then use wood filler to hide the screws. The bench will be painted with exterior paint. Should i just get Elmer’s wood filler? Or is there something better then that? Thanks for your time.

-- I had a stroke a few years back, and sometimes the words dont come out as well as I would like.


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NikkiLaRue

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#1 posted 06-07-2014 04:41 AM

I would use dowels to plug the holes …. leave them a little long and sand smooth, then use a small amount of filler

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dawsonbob

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#2 posted 06-07-2014 04:45 AM

I would second what Nikki suggested. Recently, I’ve found Titbond wood filler to be very, very good.

-- Mistakes are what pave the road to perfection

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realcowtown_eric

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#3 posted 06-07-2014 05:01 AM

ARRGGGGH not dowels…cut plugs.

Yer basic LV pilot bits cut a 3/8 hole and a 3/8 plug cutter in yer drill press (or hand drill with a guide) plugs em up real neat.

PPPPPLLLLLLEEASSSSSSEEEE no wood filler for covering screws. Looks like a tyro hack (yess that is not nice)

Sorry but wood filler to cover screws has ALWAYS indicated to myself and all my finishing friends a really low level of finesse in the job..

But do what you will.

Please rethink this..even if it is a “basic bench”

Eric

-- Real_cowtown_eric

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chetrog

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#4 posted 06-07-2014 05:53 AM

If i was to use doweling or plugs etc. Do you just put the glue on the bottom of the dowel or plug. Or do you need to cover the the dowel or plug on the sides etc. Thanks for the info guys. I really have never done anything like this type wood working.

-- I had a stroke a few years back, and sometimes the words dont come out as well as I would like.

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bondogaposis

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#5 posted 06-07-2014 12:46 PM

Put the glue on the sides of the plug and orient the grain of the plug in the same direction as the grain on the project.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Blackie_

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#6 posted 06-07-2014 02:47 PM

The plug is the best option, but instead of a plug cutter if you have a access to bandsaw or a scrollsaw you can cut your plugs that way as well, I resaw a thin slice of wood just a tad thicker then the hole to be plugged then using a hole template I pencil the circle onto the wood then use my bandsaw to cut the circle out then sanding the edges so that it fits snug in the hole I then dump a few drops of CA into the hole then tap the plug in with a hammer.

Another alternative, you would never had to purchase filler again, you can make your own, two ways to do this,
1. using a piece of wax paper dap a puddle of titebond onto the wax paper then from the work piece you are working on, sand an ample amount of saw dust from that wood and mix it with the glue making a paste and wallah wood filler that matches the wood you are working with,

2. if it’s a crack, small hole something like that you can dab the glue into the crack, hole or crevice, wipe off the access then sand over it allowing the sawdust to fall into the damaged area and you’ll never even know there was damage in that area.

Here are some images of the plugs that I use in my work pieces along with the circle template, these I cut on my bandsaw.

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chetrog

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#7 posted 06-07-2014 09:14 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I am going to Lowes today, and am going to get some plugs and dowels. I might purchase a plug cutter if there cheap. Just gonna try what it looks like on scrap board. Thanks for all the suggestions.

-- I had a stroke a few years back, and sometimes the words dont come out as well as I would like.

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redSLED

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#8 posted 06-08-2014 12:03 AM

Chetrog, you don’t have to buy plugs – make your own (more beer money in your pocket). Cut square strips of some of your left over douglas fir, cut 2” lengths, then turn your belt sander upside down and sand your 2” strips into little dowels, then cut to size with a coping saw or hack saw for plugging – all in 5-10 min which is faster than driving to a store and back. Then Bob is your uncle. Or go to the store and buy a belt sander if you don’t have one, because you should have one IMO. But first read up on belt sander reviews. Then drink beer.

-- Perfection is the difference between too much and not enough.

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Clint Searl

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#9 posted 06-08-2014 12:17 AM

Bondo

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MT_Stringer

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#10 posted 06-08-2014 12:46 AM

Make your own from the same material you are building your bench with. Like said already, use a plug cutter, add glue to the sides of the plug and pound it home, leaving enough proud (sticking above the wood) so it can be sanded flush.

That was my method for construction for the toy boxes I have built out of white pine.
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