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Forum topic by Eastern posted 06-06-2014 10:21 AM 1310 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Eastern

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06-06-2014 10:21 AM

Hi all,

Portabilty

Looking to build a basic (Harry Homeowner) portable woodworking tool set- Why portable? – I live in a townhouse and all noisey equipment must be taken outside (table saw,router,sander,miter) to operate.
————————————————————————————————————————————————- How much to pay for a router/plunger combo - I’m looking on Craigslist for a used router. I’m looking for one of the Dewalt/Bosch/Porter 1/2” plunger combos.(Then go buy 3 or 4 Frued bits – the “most used” ones). Woodworking Mag said tools loose 75% of purchase value but didn’t give a timeframe. “Unused” router sets are selling on CL for around 180.00 but brand new- they go for around 200.00. No budging on price
———————————————————————————————————————————————————————— Noise Control

While all woodworking equipment is loud – I worry about the loud groan of a router upsetting the nieghbors in a major way. Can a quicky booth be made that will help?

Any and all advice welcomed

Thanks

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Equipment I bought

12” Craftsman Drill press——Okay to use inside
Hitachi miter saw – C 10FCE2
Bosch – Saber saw

Gear needed or wish listed

Router/plunger and table, bits
Table Saw——Dewalt,Bosch,Craftsman,Dewalt
Sander – palm,belt

10” bandsaw – wishlisted – unsure if needed. On the other hand, I could probably use it inside and thats a big plus


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knotscott

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#1 posted 06-06-2014 10:51 AM

If lawn mowers are allowed in your neighbor, a router shouldn’t be an issue. The Hitachi M12VC is the quietest router I’ve used. Often available brand new with a fixed/plunge base kit for < $150. It’s a great router.

I like some of the Freud bits a lot, but they can be darn pricey. By including other top shelf brands, you’re likely to find a better deal….Whiteside, Eagle America, Infinity, CMT, Amana. You could even get good service from somewhat lesser brands like MLCS, Woodline, or Stone Mountain….MLCS sells a good 15 pc set for $42 shipped. Get 1/2” shank whenever possible.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 06-06-2014 10:58 AM

Just a couple of comments: if you think you’ll buy a useable top name router combo for 25% of new, I wish you luck. The good ones don’t come up for sale that often, and when they do they are typically at 50%+ the price of new. 50% would be a very good deal on one in good condition, expect to pay more. If you stick to your guns on the router price, this next comment probably doesn’t apply: but these things are loud, and there’s not much you can do about it….nature of the beast. I do think that using one outside makes it less loud (noise doesn’t bounce off the walls and is dispersed over a much larger area). Besides, the dust doesn’t have to be swept up, and it will be all over the place as well. Lastly, a job site saw might be just what you need for the way you’ll work. Be aware, if you think a router is loud wait until you hear a job site saw. I do wish you the best with your search. Along with trolling CL for used tools, consider looking at the classifieds section of forums such as this. The ones sold here will often be the higher quality tools and sold (usually) at true marketplace prices.

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Eastern

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#3 posted 06-06-2014 03:37 PM

knotscott

Thanks for the input . Hitachi router – I’m sold on it. I can’t find a combo for $150 it’s more like $190 from what I”ve seen but I’m sold on the brand , thanks. I want good equipment that is both safe and is reliable yet maybe the pro brands are overkill. I’m not routing 8 hours a day.

I’ll check out those bits also. Maybe I’ll buy Freud for the bits I’ll use all the time.

Fred

Thanks for the pricing information. I had no idea what was a reasonble asking price for used gear. I’m very tempted to buy a used “contractors” semi-cabinet saw with a belt drive – for noise and accuracy reasons. Maybe an old Craftsman or Delta (I read Delta has parts supply issues). I saw a Craftsman with a built in router table just today.

As a kid my father had one of those old table saws – a battleship marked “Made in the USA” – with a gigantic milled table that shined like a mirror and purred when it was on. Wish I were more interested in wood working and less in chasing skirts.

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Fred Hargis

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#4 posted 06-06-2014 06:51 PM

>>>>>Wish I were more interested in wood working and less in chasing skirts.

Bite your tongue!

I would add: I just today bought a used router on a forum classified (elsewhere). It’s a Triton, and they sell new for $225 pretty much everywhere. I paid $168 with shipping and think I got a good deal. This one wouldn’t fit your combo criteria, but ti’s for a special application in my shop and should this particular need nicely.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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knotscott

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#5 posted 06-06-2014 08:17 PM

Looks like there’s been a bit of a price increase since the last time I checked, but it’s still the quietest I’ve used. I did find the combo kit from Tyler Tool for $160 shipped after the online discount…they’re a reputable online dealer. It’s cheaper as a fixed base only router.

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#6 posted 06-06-2014 10:37 PM

I would add that routers make mostly high-frequency noise, and higher frequencies are most easily blocked by walls. Don’t underestimate how much a couple of walls can block the noise of a router – especially if you take some steps to mitigate sound in your basement (or wherever your workshop area is).

A little foam, some acoustical tiles, and some experimentation might allow you to work inside.

As for which router to choose, if I had to do it all over again I’d start with the Dewalt compact router set (I think the DW611). It’s around $150 and comes with a fixed and plunge base. 1/4 inch shanks only, but it’s really a solid set. If you end up needing something beefier in the future, you could pick up a bigger router to put in a router table and continue to use the compact router handheld.

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#7 posted 06-06-2014 10:49 PM

Put a clamp on your miter saw trigger and walk outside. That’s
about as annoying as a router will be. Turn on a shop vac
for more noise if you like.

I don’t use routers at high speed after a decent hour. Routers
with variable speed can be dialed down pretty low. I think
it’s the air turbulence from the fan spinning at 25000 rpm
that makes most of the noise.

I wouldn’t be afraid of buying a used router but I think
it’s a good idea to get one in very good cosmetic condition
as that may indicate less usage. A beat up looking
router may have been left running in a production environment
and that’s real hard on them. When a router is left running
with no wood being cut it runs at full speed and that
wears the bearings out.

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runswithscissors

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#8 posted 06-08-2014 01:49 AM

Get a couple of orange traffic cones and park a van out in front. Then the neighbors will think you’re a contractor and will have to put up with your noise.

I’m curious about this: Are the new brushless universal motors any quieter than the traditional brushed type? Seems like FWW had something to say about that.

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