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Forum topic by DorkFish posted 06-03-2014 07:10 PM 1481 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-03-2014 07:10 PM

Hi there,

I have been doing various research in regards to selling Timber and came across this forum. So I thought…why not. Maybe some of you nice people could possibly help!

Well, my husband and I just bought 10 acres of raw land on the MS Gulf Coast. This particular property is about 15-20 minutes North of the coast line. This was purchased as a retirement (13 year plan) property. But who knows, it may be sooner. We will eventually be building a home on the property.

I guess we have a couple of options here:

1: We could contract with someone and sell the timber. (Not all 10 acres) Then how do we do it? I know nothing about timber and I certainly do not want to be taken advantage of. I did find some things on the internet (Selling your timber) that pointed us in the right direction. Lumber prices

but then I started thinking…

How cool would it be to use the lumber on the property (I think mostly yellow pine) to build the house. How much money could we realistically expect to save by using our own timber? Would we even save money? How would it be processed? Would it need to be air or kiln dried? How would it be stored? So many questions came to my mind and that is when I found this website. Maybe you guys can help answer some of these questions.

Thank you in advance!

-- Andrea

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#1 posted 06-03-2014 07:39 PM

Welcome to Mississippi.
I would think that the timbering, resawing, drying, cutting to useable materials, transporting to site, etc. would eat up any savings.
Is the standing timber larger and older growth?
Have you contacted any logging operations?
How close to a milling operation are you located?
How big an area are you planning to clear?
Is there adequate ingress/egress to property?
Just some thoughts.


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#2 posted 06-03-2014 07:56 PM

Thanks, I actually grew up in Saucier, MS. I moved here to IL about 12 years ago and now looking forward to being back in MS. My husband is NOT going to like the heat. LOL

My mom went out to look at it (as I haven’t seen it yet, hehe) She said that it was large virgin timber. what ever that means. She said that it was very thick with pine. Personally, I think it looks a little thinned to me. (according to the satellite photo.)

No, I haven’t contacted anyone yet. Trying to get myself educated with the process first.

I am not sure about the saw mills but I do believe there is one in Wiggins, MS. That would probably be 30-40 minutes north.

At this point, we are thinking of removing 3-4 acres. My brother has already mentioned that I need to sell him 5 acres. LOL So, I might also need to plan for that. :)

ingress/egress …errr Okay, I will need to be educated on this. Not sure what this means.

The property is surrounded by Desoto National forest. We have an easement for logging road rights. So the only access to the property is a forestry road. That is being transferred into our names as we speak.

-- Andrea

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#3 posted 06-03-2014 08:06 PM

sorry…learning how to post pics. It cut off some of the photo on the right.

-- Andrea

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#4 posted 06-03-2014 08:21 PM

-- Andrea

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#5 posted 06-03-2014 08:25 PM

Andrea I love the idea of using the lumber from your land to build your home. However I don’t know what the cost benefit would be for y’all. However if y’all bought a bandsaw mill to mill the lumber you could easily resell it and recoup a whole lot of your investment cost as well as sell the excess lumber you cut. Sure, it’s a good bit of work, but it will be all yours!

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#6 posted 06-03-2014 08:28 PM

Yeah, me too. But I’m not sure there would be much of a savings. Which is sad. How much would something like that cost?

-- Andrea

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#7 posted 06-03-2014 08:36 PM

It is a great idea, but don’t plan on saving much. Lumber is the cheapest part of building a house. All of the other items cost far more, concrete, roofing, glass, cabinets wiring, plumbing, sheetrock, carpet, fixtures, and the big one, labor.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#8 posted 06-03-2014 08:45 PM

You can often find somebody with a portable mill who can come to your site. They typically charge a minimum plus a milage charge plus something based on either time or amount of lumber sawn. However, you would probably want to build with kiln-dried lumber. Now, a lumber kiln is not too fancy a thing – just an insulated shed with a way to control the temperature and humidity. But I don’t know if it’s worth it to build a small kiln on site.

Here’s one company that sells the heating/drying units for small kilns.


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#9 posted 06-03-2014 08:50 PM

bondo…that is what I was thinking also. :(

Ocelot…I’m not sure I trust myself on doing it right! LOL

-- Andrea

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#10 posted 06-03-2014 09:26 PM

If all you are looking at is southern yellow pine (SYP) then there really isn’t a lot of value. Syp is good for framing lumber and thats about all. If you were building the house and other structures your self then there is some savings to be had, but not much. Also rough sawn lumber isn’t the easiest to build with. if you were to joint and plane the material to a uniform size there would still be saving fiscally, but a lot of blood money. Here is a small affordable mill with a video of what goes into using one. If you were clear cutting 5 acres of hard wood there would be some value.

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#11 posted 06-04-2014 02:04 AM

You could save about half of the cost of the framing lumber for your house if had your own trees sawn given what you would have to pay a portable sawmill to come to your site and saw your trees. Then, they leave you with this big stack of lumber. You have to have somewhere to sticker and dry the wood. Air dried would be fine, as the wood will dry down to 12 – 15% in MS. Commercial framing lumber sold in lumberyards for home construction are indeed kiln dried, but only to 19%. Look at a board the next time in Lowes of HD. On the framing lumber, like a 2×10x12, you will see a stamp that probably says KD19. That means kiln dried to 19%.

But, you need the facilities and equipment to handle and dry this much lumber. Take that into account, and any savings are probably gone.

A very big potential hurdle is that many Counties require that all framing lumber be grade stamped by a southern yellow pine lumber grader. Graders have to be certified. If your county requires grade stamped lumber for home building, that is a show stopper because of the cost to hire an independent grader to inspect, grade, and stamp EVERY board will not be cheap.

I would enjoy the timber, manage it for long term sustainability, and buy your framing lumber from the lumberyard. It is already dried, graded, and planed.

-- Danny Located in Perry, GA. Forester. Wood-Mizer LT40HD35 Sawmill. Nyle L53 Dehumidification Kiln.

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#12 posted 06-04-2014 04:00 AM

Andrea, don’t you want to be surrounded by trees ? If you cut your trees down what will become of the property ? We bought 20 acres and the only trees we cut down were for the driveway and the house. We love living in a jungle. I’ve built trails through for my Rhino.

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#13 posted 06-04-2014 04:30 PM

Shawn…Yes I believe most of it is SYP. We will probably leave any hardwoods. Framing was what we were looking to do with it. Although we wouldn’t be doing the building. We would actually sub-contract for that. We will be acting as the general contractor once we are ready to build. Yeah, not looking to put that much blood (LOL) into it.

WDHLT15…Unfortunately, we have the problem of where to store the lumber. I think at this point, we would have to know someone that has one of these portable saw mills to make it beneficial. Not sure about the grader thing. I would have to check into this. Yep, I think buying is probably going to be the best option. :(

Yonak…Yes, we do. We aren’t going to cut down everything, only a few acres. I look forward to the trails! :)

-- Andrea

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#14 posted 06-04-2014 08:26 PM

You could save a lot of money should you use the trees to build a log home. Here is how I did mine


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#15 posted 06-04-2014 11:18 PM

Sounds like a great deal with all the lumber on it. You should be able to get some fresh seafood down there. I have always felt that Mississippi was a sleeper as far as food and cuisine. It just doesn’t get the hype that New Orleans/Louisiana get. Hopefully your husband will adjust to the heat. I lived in LA for six years- never did get used to the heat and humidity.
Just hope a hurricane doesn’t flatten all those trees.

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