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Forum topic by swarfrat posted 06-02-2014 02:46 AM 19478 views 3 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-02-2014 02:46 AM

My tiny workshop currently consists of 1) one itty bitty table saw, 2) ok compound sliding miter saw, 3) laminate trim router. The table saw was bought for a single job and more than paid for itself. It’s only still here because well, I wasn’t going to throw out a working saw.

I’m in the process of making some guitar speaker cabinets and head, and I need repeatable crosscut capability. I was browsing CL for table saws, and found some decent deals, but then I started questioning my priorities. Basically the TS still works for rips. Miter gauge is lost, and it has a funky slot (and itty bitty table.) If I had a decent bench for the miter saw, with a long fence, that would take care of most of my crosscut needs. Which leaves me thinking that, perhaps what I need is that and then make a real router my next tool purchase. (Hitachi M12VC)

My question is about combining functions on tool workbenches. I’ve seen lots of table saw / router combos. There the fence does double duty. I’ve not seen the miter saw combined with much else except a planer. I’m thinking because it doesn’t seem like a good fit. The fence doesn’t move, and would be in the way of the TS/RT. I did fine one RT/Miter saw table on Pinterest, but is it even a good idea? Is there anything that DOES combine well with the Miter Saw? (Or should I go back to focusing on replacing the table saw first)?


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#1 posted 06-02-2014 09:10 AM

You could build a crosscut sled for you miter saw. A router is an excellent acquisition either way.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#2 posted 06-02-2014 11:08 AM

Crosscut sled for miter saw? Did you mean the table saw? I actually own a TS sled that lives at my brothers house because my saw isn’t big enough. (I bought it decades ago, when I was using my other brothers saw). I do plan to replace the table saw at some point in the next year, so I hate to build anything around this one.

I did think about making a TS/RT bench, and just making sure I build it big enough to house any of the saws I’ve been looking at. But that doesnt really get me any additional capability until I make the router purchase and it still doesnt help with the miter/chop saw. If you actually meant crosscut sled for the miter saw, I’d have to see what you meant by that.

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#3 posted 06-02-2014 11:42 AM

dupe

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#4 posted 06-02-2014 11:54 AM

Im big on combining tool table to save space, but I have yet to find anything to mate with a miter saw in a practical way. Ill be watching this thread to see what you guys come up with.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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#5 posted 06-02-2014 12:20 PM

Yeah, thats pretty much what I was thinking too, but I not as experienced as a lot of folks here. I don’t have a planer, or see any pressing need for one. But it probably is one of the better combinations with the miter saw, simply because the feed is linear, it has a max width, the saw fence is fixed and not in the way of the planer. It may not have the synergy the table saw / router combo has, but at least they’re not fighting.

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#6 posted 06-02-2014 04:13 PM

One option I’m considering is to see if I can hinge the saw so that it flips up behind the work bench, and have a spare plate to drop in its place for uninterrupted workbench surface. Being a chop saw, this might be a silly feature though. Have to think about that one a bit.

The biggest problem with the idea I’ve thought so far (assuming the hinge isn’t a big deal. I was thinking a piece of 1” pipe for a hinge) – is that the saw is relatively heavy in relation to the work bench, which only needs to be about 12” Deep, as that’s the capacity of the saw, and I’m not likely to buy a planar much bigger than that. So that leaves a 36” High x 12” Deep x 36-48” long bench with about 30 lbs hanging off the back of it. I guess I could extend legs out the back, because being a sliding saw, it can’t really back straight up to the wall anyway . But I might as well make that storage space, that means the hinge is inset from the back ,and the overall depth is about 10” deeper.

How much space do I need on BOTH sides? I’m thinking if I build it the same height as the workbench / table saw, I can use those for stock support on the waste side. (Whichever side that is)

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#7 posted 06-02-2014 05:18 PM

I am really scratching my head on this one. I have combined or at least thought of combining most of my tools. With my miter saw (12” chop) Ive been really happy with 4ft of fence on either side. I put the extra effort into dust collection.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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#8 posted 06-02-2014 05:43 PM

Another idea I just sketched up is putting a modest amount of table/fence on either side, and coming up with an auxillarly fence that could fasten to it when you need to go out past 24” or so from the blade. I have a sketch for that, but it will take some more head scratching to make it ambidextrous.

My shop is TINY. Like a 10×10 gambrel roof utility shed. I’m all for building stuff that helps me get more down in this tiny space, but I don’t want to waste space on hypothetical capabilities. I do need a 30” cutoff for the next project. But I think I can live with attaching wings as needed.

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#9 posted 06-02-2014 07:11 PM

”Crosscut sled for miter saw? Did you mean the table saw?”

Sorry…I definitely meant table saw!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#10 posted 06-02-2014 08:46 PM

Here’s something sorta like what I was thinking:

I like this better than my original idea for add on fence. The fence could be mounted either side. If you remove it entirely, it might be handy to have a short fence. I was kind of thinking maybe something like bed rail fasteners on the buttress/cabinet, some simple 1 slot t-track on top.

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#11 posted 04-06-2015 07:18 PM

I know this is an old thread but I had a similar problem and made this multi-functional workstation which houses my miter saw, router, planer (stores in the middle and can replace the miter saw using the two sides of the station as infeed / outfeed tables). I also have a shop vac hidden in the cabinet on the left operated by Rockler’s I-socket with hoses running out the back to the miter saw and router. Finally, there is a small shelf in the back which holds my grinder, a small sander, and a small vice.

-- SamR, Oklahoma

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#12 posted 04-06-2015 09:07 PM

That looks nice but is above my skill level currently [a novice]. I don’t suppose you have plans [I can work from plans, I’m just not so good at building my own plans just yet].

-- Mike

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#13 posted 04-06-2015 10:05 PM

Nice project. Since I posted this, I still haven’t gotten anything built, although I was gonna blame someone else, but I see you have one hiding behind the router table, and still managed to get something built. My table saw has been on loan to my brother, but it should be coming home soon. Seeing all that space though..

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#14 posted 04-07-2015 06:45 PM

Mike: No formal plans, just some drawings I did. I will look and see if I can find them

Swarfrat: I forgot about the photo bomb behind the router. The project took at lot of time because I could only work on it for a couple of hours each week due to the new baby and my job. However, having my miter saw, router, drill press, and other various tools ready to go has saved me more time than it took to make the entire project.

-- SamR, Oklahoma

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#15 posted 04-08-2015 07:08 PM

I guess I better learn some creativity then.

-- Mike

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