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Forum topic by Grasshopper000 posted 06-02-2014 02:15 AM 782 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Grasshopper000

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06-02-2014 02:15 AM

I’m in the middle of building my first bench, and I’m to the point where I need to consider what vise I’ll attach (to the front). I’ve read that quick release vises are handy, but any advice you can offer is appreciated. I don’t want to break the bank, but I plan on buying one to last a while, so if I have to get a nice one I can, but you know, best vise for the price is what I’m going for, any and all input is welcome. Hope this is in the right forum. Thanks.

Bart


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sepeck

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#1 posted 06-03-2014 11:18 PM

You may want to elaborate on what type of woodworking you are planning on doing. There are tons of ways to do things with and without vices using any number of combinations of tools, etc. Are you primarily using hand tools, power tools or both? You could also just wait a while or do one of the less expensive work a rounds until you got a better sense of what would be useful rather then spending money on something random.

for the budget
http://jayscustomcreations.com/2014/04/how-to-make-a-sliding-moxon-vise/
and at the complete other end
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/workbenches/schwarz-workbenches/floats-full-stars
anything from http://www.benchcrafted.com (go through some of the older posts on Chris blog if you are planning on hand work, he has some opinions/posts on work benches (also a book) and how to use them.

Currently I have the end vice on this (http://www.harborfreight.com/60-in-4-drawer-hardwood-workbench-69054.html ) which I use at times. (Eventually I will replace that whole thing with something but for now it works well enough and it was a gift).

Best of luck and have fun.

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Tim

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#2 posted 06-03-2014 11:52 PM

Agree, it would be good to know the type of work you plan on doing. There are a variety of ways you can work without a vice at least in the beginning if you want to using clamps, holdfasts, battens, and wedges.

There are a variety of old school wedge methods, and here’s a video on using a holdfast and battens to hold work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNrof3cd1cA

After that, I would stay away from cheap vices. Pretty much everybody says you’ll just spend that money again on a better one. I bought a nice quality Wilton vice off craigslist. I would have preferred to have quick release, but it’s not a deal breaker.

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Grasshopper000

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#3 posted 06-03-2014 11:56 PM

Thanks for the replies. I’ll be making furniture primarily, bookcases, tables, etc. Leaning toward hand tools, at least for smoothing/finishing, but may be flattening with larger jointer planes, too. Will be doing some joinery with hand planes, too, like router planes, cutting dadoes (have an unused Craftsman 3728, like the Stanley 45). Does this make the question easier to answer? Thanks for the help, also interested in cheaper interim options. Thanks, folks.

Bart

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#4 posted 06-04-2014 12:09 AM

I installed two vises on my bench …
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The front vise is a Groz (9” fast release) from Rockler. I mortised both the front edge of the bench and the jaw to bury the vise … that way, I can clamp larger pieces to the right leg (legs are flush with the edge of the top. The end vise is a 7” Groz (from WoodCraft).

Five years of use and I am still happy with the configuration I chose.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#5 posted 06-05-2014 12:17 AM

Here’s a good post with some other options.
http://lumberjocks.com/TimC/blog/41350

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Grasshopper000

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#6 posted 06-05-2014 01:34 AM

Thanks for all the tips, folks. Very helpful. One other question, for the holes for the holdfasts and benchdogs, just drill with a drill press (or hand drill in my case)?

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Tim

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#7 posted 06-05-2014 05:55 PM

Yeah you can use any drill you have.
Here’s a video on doing it with a brace and bit:
http://www.renaissancewoodworker.com/boring-straight-and-true/

I don’t see why bench dog holes need to be perfectly vertical and true, but maybe there’s some reason I’m missing that they do.

This one also shows a lot of ways of working without a vice.
http://www.renaissancewoodworker.com/no-workbench-needed/

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#8 posted 06-05-2014 06:21 PM

This Wilton vise looks really nice, and has good reviews from fellow LJ members.
http://www.rockler.com/wilton-pivot-jaw-woodworking-vise

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#9 posted 06-06-2014 03:22 AM

Thanks, Tim and Pinto. Very helpful replies.

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#10 posted 06-06-2014 04:29 AM

For the money, a leg vise is hard to beat…

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive

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sepeck

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#11 posted 06-08-2014 03:27 AM

And one more video with some options.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVGSI2wGxrs

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Grasshopper000

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#12 posted 06-08-2014 12:03 PM

Thank for the help. For what it’s worth, the base for the bench, not fully assembled yet but will be soon. There are a lot nicer benches out there, but thought y’all might like to see what I’m working with. Using the 2”’ x 6”s makes it very solid. Thanks again folks.

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#13 posted 06-08-2014 02:57 PM

Non roubo bench. Hmmmm Benchcrafted gear is out.

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Grasshopper000

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#14 posted 06-08-2014 06:37 PM

Hey, John, I’m a woodworking newbie so not sure what benchcrafted gear is? And while I do know what a Roubo bench is (just got a few bench book classics), I think I’m a ways off from that at this point! Small improvements, some early successes, so I can get up and running, and the skill will come as long as I keep doing it, or that’s what I keep telling myself…

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#15 posted 06-08-2014 09:00 PM

Benchcrafted ( http://benchcrafted.com/ ) makes some really first class hardware.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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