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j_dubb

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06-01-2014 08:34 PM

Topic tags/keywords: craftsman 113 113 table saw craftsman

A few days ago I was trying to make a sled for my skilsaw table saw. Used the dremel to get rid of those stupid guides in the miter slots. Then tried ripping some pieces of wood to act as the miter slot rails. For the life of me I just could not get a straight rip cut with the table saw. I got frustrated and threw my hands in the air, figuring I’d just come back to it at a later date.

I had posted about this on the woodworking subreddit and a fella recommended that I look into picking up a used craftsman 113 table saw from craigslist since they’re decent saws and are quite dependable once properly tuned up. So I figured I’d check out craigslist….lo and behold there were about 4 of ‘em listed in my area. The best one was in Shelton, about an hour away, so I took a drive to check it out.

He was asking $100 for the saw. Included was a new HTC mobile base ($60 on amazon). Also included was the wing kit and the guide rails for the fence. I asked him if he had any other woodworking stuff he wanted to get rid of, so he went into his shop and brought out a jorgensen 9” bench vise. Looks pretty similar to the 40709 and operates like butter. Included that as well.

Threw together a quick album on imgur. http://imgur.com/a/8uFxT

I’m not 100% certain it’s brag worthy, but I feel like I did okay!

-- Josh // "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." - Jack Handey


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lightcs1776

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#1 posted 06-01-2014 08:46 PM

I really like my craftsman 113 TS. I’m sure you’ll like yours as well. Congrats.

-- Chris ** If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. — Tom Paine **

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firefighterontheside

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#2 posted 06-01-2014 08:50 PM

I’d say you did well. That’s a lot of saw for $100 in good condition. My father in law has a lot of very nice tools worth a lot more than the ones I have, but he refuses to replace his 113.

-- Bill M. "People change, walnut doesn't" by Gene.

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#3 posted 06-01-2014 11:07 PM

I’ve done a lot of cutting on one of those. I had one for over 25 years. They are very good saws. To me the weakest part was the fence. You will probably want to upgrade that someday. That one doesn’t look like it have been hardly broken in. You did good.

-- “We all die. The goal isn't to live forever; the goal is to create something that will.” - Chuck Palahniuk

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#4 posted 06-01-2014 11:48 PM

Well right on Josh! Looks like a hell of a bargain to me. A new link belt from HF may cure your vibrations for around 25 clams. Ill keep my eye out for some bench lumber to go with that new vice.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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#5 posted 06-01-2014 11:56 PM

That should serve you well for some time ,congrats.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#6 posted 06-02-2014 01:03 AM

Apparently everybody else is a bit under the weather, so I rise to do my duty.

A tablesaw, mobile base, wing kit, and a bench vise for $100?

YOU SUCK!

Nice haul! I’m sure the equipment is happy to be in your hands.

Congratulations.

-- You've got to be smarter than the tree.

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j_dubb

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#7 posted 06-02-2014 05:22 PM

haha Picklehead – I scored my first “you suck!” feels good! Looking forward to working on the tune-up to get ‘er where she needs to be.

Definitely going to upgrade the fence on this thing. The biggest pain in the ass with my skilsaw was having to measure the fence every single time I moved it as it is simply not to be trusted under any circumstance – and the fence on this craftsman doesn’t seem to be much different. Perhaps after I tune it up and get things nice ‘n waxed it’ll at least actually slide.

I’m a ways off on the couple of franklin’s it’ll cost to go after a delta T2 (at least I think that’s what I’m gonna aim for – still need to do some research and make sure it’s even compatible) – can’t imagine shelling out more than that. The incra is super sexy, but not at that price tag.

Edit: Yeah, stef definitely going to check out the link belts as you had recommended those to me for my band saw as well, just need to drive out to the HF in newington and pick a couple up. Hopefully that does solve a lot of the vibration problems, but it may be a bit. Had the wife out helping me with the wings and when I turned it on and it was vibrating a bit and I could’ve sworn I saw a twinkle in her eye.

-- Josh // "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." - Jack Handey

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#8 posted 06-02-2014 10:52 PM

Picklehead beat me to it.
But, a second *YOU SUCK!!!, is called for.

I have a 113 also. Mine came with a mobile base & a Vega 40” Utility fence, but only stamped steel extension tables (I have since acquired, but not installed CI webbed extension tables). All for $125.00.

The first thing I did was to replace both the arbor & motor pulleys, with machined pulleys from In-Line industries and installed their PALS kit. They have the link belt, but HF has the same thing for less.

Machined Pulleys: http://in-lineindustries.com/products/accu-link-belt/
PALS (blade alignment kit): http://in-lineindustries.com/products/contractor-saw-pals/

Ya done good, CONGRATS!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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j_dubb

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#9 posted 06-09-2014 07:43 PM

An update on the table saw (copy/pasted from Stef’s inquiry on my latest project’s comment section).

The table saw has been a bit of a roller coaster, actually, Stef. The pulleys were pretty far out of alignment, so I unmounted the motor, pulled off the belt and the pulleys. Found that the pulley on the arbor spindle (is that even correct terminology?) was missing the key way (again, terminology? maybe they’re called woodruff keys?) and the allen screw was just screwed down in it to keep it in place.

I shrugged it off, figured if it worked before I guess it’ll work now.

Put it back together, got the pulleys nice and aligned (the pulley on the motor spindle, on the other hand, did have the key way) and fired up the saw. The vibration was minimal. Got the saw blade parallel after some adjustments to the trunnion bolts. I was stoked, man. The vibration was reduced so much, in fact, I figured I’d give the old nickel test a shot.

Got my nickel. Set it on the table saw. Fired it up. Nickel stayed put. I actually recorded this with my video camera. Perhaps I should upload it because what happened next was a real thrill.

The table started to vibrate after about 15 seconds…..and more….and more…..and PA-CHING! – a piece of something went flying. Shortly thereafter the arbor pulley fell to the floor with the belt. Scared the crap outta me.

After a quick assessment I learned the key way on the motor pulley is what went flying (can’t believe it went flying and the pulley stayed on the spindle!). I thought back to when I heard the noise, and actually managed to find it in my mess of a shop in all of about 30 seconds.

Anyway….after that I got everything in place again and tightened the crap out of the allen screws on the pulleys and got it back to satisfactory. Built a sled for the saw this weekend, but that pulley has once again started to slip which has resulted with my sled being every so slightly off of 90 degrees to the front fence.

Not going to use the saw any more until I get a proper key way for the arbor spindle/pulley – I was also told that I may want to invest in some machined pulleys instead of the forged pulleys that are on there, but I haven’t had much luck sourcing any of those.

I’m not gonna continue using the saw until I have it properly set up, though….probably shouldn’t have used it this weekend without the pulley being 100% secure.

I’m not a smart man, but I know what wood is.

###########################################

And a quick edit – In my post I noted I couldn’t find a source for machined pulleys, but DIYaholic had linked me to some in the post above this! I KNEW someone had turned me on to them but damned if I could remember where it was (as I had also posted this on reddit). Glad I came back to this thread. Ordering this ASAP!

-- Josh // "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." - Jack Handey

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chrisstef

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#10 posted 06-09-2014 08:09 PM

I probably would have had a “I think I ruined your roommates robe” moment once that pulley came off. Good news is that you didn’t get hurt and you now know your saw pretty intimately. Some new pulleys and a new key way jammy will tighten up that old saw no problem.

-- rock, chalk, jayhawk

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neverenougftackle

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#11 posted 06-09-2014 09:12 PM

Josh, since I have own one of these Craftsman TS saws, for a long time now. Let me warn you on a couple of other things to look out for in your TS, The rotating knob there on your front that raises and lower the blade, over all it will work just fine,,,,,NOW, on the other hand, that round knob on the right side of your saw, that will be something else—-it tilts that saw blade/arbor/motor all at once, and all all by turning that small diameter Plastic knob. Also,,, Not counting the dust build up on those Acme threads that turn it all, and trying to bind to try to prohibit you from turning this knob…..I striped mine out TWICE. So there in the back where the motor is, in that opening . cover your eyes and mouth and use the blower as well as the suction side of your shop vac try to keep the aluminum track and threads clean as you can. At the very lease if the Allen set screw becomes loose in that hard to turn knob, STOP and tighten it back down. With the extra effort it will take to turn, any slack, and there goes that aluminum set seat in that center of that wheel..

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nicksmurf111

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#12 posted 06-09-2014 09:19 PM

I think those craftsman motors may have bushings (depending on the year). Keep it oiled and clean of sawdust. I had one that got trashed…it wasn’t cooperative.

-- Nicholas

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j_dubb

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#13 posted 06-19-2014 01:49 PM

I received my machined pulleys and link belt from in-line industries, but I still need a damn woodruff key for the arbor pulley spindle! Not having much look sourcing one locally that I can just pick up, and of course online they’re all sold in multi-packs of ridiculous amounts.

I’m pretty sure I need a 3/16 3/4” half-round (key way doesn’t go to the end of the spindle on the arbor), but the motor (Sears #62618) manual doesn’t specify this (granted the arbor is on the saw itself, but it’s not specified in the table saw manual either – I have both physical original manuals that came with the saw/motor.

I’ll probably just end up buying this 14-pack http://amzn.to/1sqC1KZ

-- Josh // "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." - Jack Handey

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nicksmurf111

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#14 posted 06-19-2014 02:40 PM

I thought they normally sold those at hardware stores and farm supply stores?

-- Nicholas

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j_dubb

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#15 posted 06-19-2014 02:45 PM

I’d read that online Nick, but I’ve searched the local places like Ace and Tractor Supply and various others to no avail.

-- Josh // "If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason." - Jack Handey

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