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05-15-2014 10:06 PM

I don’t own any Festools but I respect the brand and could probably choke down the price but I’m not entirely delighted by reviews which cite a requirement of Festool blades.

Is the Bosch glide saw in the same league? I’m not sure I care about the variable speed of the Kapex and I have a miter angle finder.

One thing the Festool does appear to have over the Bosch is less bench depth requirement. I don’t have a ton of space and I am looking to replace an old DeWalt 708 slider that requires acres of bench space.

I’d like to have the saw at the side of my shop because my workspace doubles as a garage.

Any advice would be appreciated.


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#1 posted 05-15-2014 10:30 PM

I’m in a similar boat. I like the bosch glide saw a lot, especially after having my hands on one and since they came out with a 10” model and I have only 10” blades, an investment that alone would represent two Kapex saws. I like the lack of belts on the Kapex, but the proprietary blades combined with the price are a big turn off. I’ve never needed a variable speed miter saw so that doesn’t represent a feature to me. The only other 10” saw that (I know of) uses gear drive only with a double bevel is the Makita LS1013. But with that comes with the same problem not being able to locate the saw close to the wall due to the extension back from the base.

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#2 posted 05-15-2014 10:38 PM

No it’s not.

There are problems with it cutting square. Many people talk about it in reviews. A guy explained that if he concentrates he can get the cut to be perfectly square. But what if you don’t.. it doesn’t. Apparently it’s finicky.

He would not buy it again given the chance. I like the saw, but that’s a big issue.
On the other hand the kapex is almost 2 times the price.

The saw does not offer a nice laser. I believe it should have a laser as good as the Kapex, , not blade mounted.
It should offer both sides and very fine lines. But they didn’t include it. I know, for fine work you don’t need a laser. But there are many times it does come in handy. And if it were as good as the Kapex, you could use it for fine work.

So no it’s not as good.

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#3 posted 05-15-2014 10:55 PM

I was looking at that saw as well. It seems like a pretty sweet saw, and bosch has a reputation as being among the more accurate cutting saws in the price class. My 12” CMS is a Bosch, and I can count on it to provide good cuts. It’s just getting up there in age. It’s also not a slider. The glide just looks like a great solution. Sad to hear that there are issues with accuracy.

The Kapex is sweet, but as others have mentioned, it just feels like getting robbed for blades.

A wise man once told me: “It ain’t the gun, it’s the bullets”. (He was referring to the more expensive paslode paper collated nails to the generic plastic collated, when I was considering a paslode framing nailer over a far superior but slightly more expensive hitachi.)

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#4 posted 05-15-2014 10:58 PM

Thanks for the replies so far. Good info.

The hitachi C12LSH also appears to be condusive to mounting close to a wall.

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#5 posted 05-15-2014 11:39 PM

Yeti, what bothers you about the belts?
You have a belt on your tablesaw.

I am not worried by the belts. I used to have that Makita until I dropped it down the stairs to the basement. I miss that saw. I need a new one.. I bought a cheap HF unit for $5 at a garage sale… it sucks, so I am also in the market.

I looked at the Hitachi, would really like something with a handle like the bosch. But zero wall clearance. The Kapex is by far the best… But over priced.

The Kapex, does accept other blades though. Forrest makes blades, as do a numer of other manufacturers offer the hole pattern of the Kapex… a euro mount. I’ve never seen a blade thrown, so I don’t understand this. But they claim it is necessary for the blade brake..

-- Jeff NJ

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#6 posted 05-16-2014 12:38 AM

Is the Bosch glide saw in the same league?

Not even close. Bosch is a nice saw, but the Kapex

is King. Try one for 30 days if you don’t love it take it

back no questions asked.

Their customer service is world renowned and second to none.

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#7 posted 05-16-2014 12:45 AM

I have the hitachi 12 inch slider and it fits closer to the wall than my older Bosch 10 slider. I believe that the Kapex can use other blades, at least I have seen people stating that on the FOG.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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#8 posted 05-16-2014 02:44 AM

I had an opportunity to do a side-by-side comparison between the Kapex and the Hitachi 12-inch slider. I made 90-, 45- and 22.5-degree cuts using just the factory indexing, and then checked the results of each. Both saws passed with flying colors. I saw/felt differences between the two saws, but I couldn’t say one was superior to the other – there were just differences.

$399 at Menards for the Hitachi, and use your favorite blade. That’s a $1,000 price difference.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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#9 posted 05-16-2014 02:50 AM

Blades don’t seem to be an issue on the Kapex for us. We’ve had the machine in the shop for about three years and haven’t done anything more than clean the original. It might need sharpening in another year.

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#10 posted 05-16-2014 02:07 PM

Thanks, everyone.

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#11 posted 05-16-2014 03:43 PM

I have had the Hitachi C12RSH for about a year now … great saw.

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#12 posted 05-16-2014 03:50 PM

My tablesaw has 3 v-belts, not a proprietary multi-ribbed belt design that I certainly wouldn’t find in a hardware store in a pinch. Ultimately it boils down to the KISS design principle. Having a belt when not needed adds cost, size, weight, maintenance, complexity and reduces efficiency.

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#13 posted 05-16-2014 04:01 PM

I have owned a Kapex for a couple of years now and prior to it I had the Bosch slider. The Bosch frequently had alignment problems and I was glad when I sold it and bought the Kapex. Sure, it is more money…but I don’t mind the extra investment because I don’t plan on replacing it.

I view the blades as consumables that can be sharpened a number of times before needing replacing… I think of them like tires for my van…I buy good ones but they still need to be replaced after a while.

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#14 posted 05-16-2014 04:20 PM

The bosch slider wasn’t the saw the op was considering. I agree completely, with the tire analogy, only if your replacement tires were only available at the dealer where you bought your van and virtually zero tire shops had any thing that would fit.

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#15 posted 05-16-2014 06:04 PM

I have the Bosch glide and am perfectly happy with it. My workbench is 33” deep and nothing sticks into the isle. A 25” deep workbench might be possible. It would stick out 8” with the blade at 90 degrees, but would be flush with the edge if the blade was turned after you are finished.

I suspect that the Kapex is in another league, but so is the price.

-- Steve

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