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05-13-2014 01:19 AM

I recently purchased an 18” Woodmaster Planer off CL. The plan is for it to live at the wood storage barn where the sawmill is. I have no dust collection there but a scoop shovel and leaf blower work great for the mill clean up (on a concrete slab). My thought is to wheel the planer out onto the slab and let the chips fall wherever and then scoop them up like I do the sawdust from the mill.

The question is: will the lack of DC adversely affect the planer’s performance?

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#1 posted 05-13-2014 01:24 AM

Andy, I wouldn’t think there would be any effect as long as the chips are blowing out of the planer…..

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#2 posted 05-13-2014 01:26 AM

Andy, my Powermatic gets all clogged up and won’t pull wood through when I go even a short while without the dust collector on. I can’t say about yours. Try it and see. You may have to run it without some of the shields…don’t know if that is a good idea.

-- Big Al in IN

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#3 posted 05-13-2014 01:37 AM

before i had collection
i ran my 20” planer raw
without the collector shield
the chips can get under the out feed rollers
and ‘emboss’ into the wood lightly
but a minimal sanding took care of it

better than nada

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#4 posted 05-13-2014 01:39 AM

The chips will affect the feed rollers ability to pull the wood through the planer.

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#5 posted 05-13-2014 01:54 AM

Boxguy that assumes you have the hood on.
In this case, I think Andy is just going to let them fly w/o a hood.
W/O they should eject more efficiently than a hooded unit.

-- Jeff NJ

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#6 posted 05-13-2014 01:58 AM

back again andy
since you are mostly doing hardwoods
(i was planing pine and alder)
you shouldn’t have much trouble
(knock on wood)

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#7 posted 05-13-2014 01:59 AM

Jerry, Even if I open/remove the hood/shroud? I REALLY don’t want to buy a second dust collector!

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#8 posted 05-13-2014 02:03 AM

Andy do you have a compressor? or a shop vac to blow out chips?

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#9 posted 05-13-2014 02:04 AM

Not sure running without the hood is a good idea

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#10 posted 05-13-2014 02:06 AM

I have heard some violent clanging inside my Woodmaster whenever a knot or chunk of wood let’s loose. Would hate to get hit with that flying knot.

However, if you have compressed air, you could clear the planer with compressed air. That works but is not as food as DC.

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#11 posted 05-13-2014 02:15 AM

Yes, I have a big compressor but it is in the shop next to the dust collector! And the shop is about 1/4 mile from the mill and wood storage barn!

Jerry, I hear you on the safety issue.

Maybe I can find a DC motor/impeller and use it with no bags just blowing the chips onto the slab.

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#12 posted 05-13-2014 02:16 AM

If you remove the shroud it should blow right out like the old foley and bel-saw’s. If it isn’t clearing the chips it will cause a problem with the feeder. My 20” doesn’t need a DC if I take off the shroud. I usually only use the DC on my planer in the winter. In the summer I let it blow all over the drive and shovel it up into the gator and dump it in the woods later. You really should look into something like this.)

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#13 posted 05-13-2014 11:17 AM

It shouldn’t take too much of a blower to clear the planer something like this should be enough..
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/tls/4442611819.html

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#14 posted 05-13-2014 11:50 AM

Andy, I have an old 15” planer which has a wide rectangular slot for chip ejection. I fabricated a dust port but my 4” ducts wouldn’t handle the chip output. I now just spread a tarp and let the chips fly, than I tie the tarp up. I have several neighbors who get the chips for their horses, goats ect. Keep visitors away from the discharge and blow out with a leaf blower occasionally. Wish we were neighbors, I just sawed some 17” pine!

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#15 posted 05-13-2014 12:09 PM

I used to use a Powermatic 160 that sat under an overhang at work, used primarily for planning treated wood and it had no dust collection, just the cutter head ejecting the chips out the back. Never had a problem with it, but it did make one heck of a mess.

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