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Forum topic by BenoitM posted 100 days ago 584 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BenoitM

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100 days ago

I’d like to do a patio set looking like this one:

(http://www.trendsi.com/7431-outdoor-dining-table-design.html)

I’d like to use red cedar for this. My only concern is relative to the table and benches feet. I cannot find any 6×6 red cedar lumbers in my area (Montreal), so I wonder if 4×4 would looks good too, it would make the feet a little thiner.

Any suggestion? Ideas? Please advise :-)

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/


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Monte Pittman

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#1 posted 100 days ago

Laminated 2×4s would be plenty strong. Be sure to use a finish made for outdoor furniture.

-- Mother Nature created it, I just assemble it. - It's not ability that we often lack, but the patience to use our ability

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jumbojack

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#2 posted 100 days ago

like Monte said, only veneer it with your red cedar. I would use at least 1/2” veneer. With care it could be made to look like a solid timber.

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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BenoitM

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#3 posted 100 days ago

I’m not sure I fully understand, and i’m not sure you’re both saying the same thing.

Jumbojack: do you mean I should use 4×4 (any wood?) and then veneer it with red cedar?

I think that what monte meant is that I should glue together a bunch of 2×4 cedar lumber to make the feet. I can be wrong, i’m quite new to woodworking, and english is not my native language, so bear with me if i’m mistaken.

Thanks for the advises :-)

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/

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mrjinx007

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#4 posted 100 days ago

I don’t see 6×6 used in the picture. It looks like the bench, the bench feet and possibly the table top are hollow made with frames and covered with 1” thick boards.

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BenoitM

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#5 posted 100 days ago

I though it was done the same way this one is done:

http://ana-white.com/2013/08/plans/modern-outdoor-patio-table

They use two 6×6 for each of the four feet.

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/

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BenoitM

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#6 posted 100 days ago

But hollow made with frames makes a lot of sense yeah.

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/

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BLarge

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#7 posted 100 days ago

I’d be interested to see if veneered Redwood would stay on the laminted 2×4. Even with alot of finish and there apprear to be very little entry points for moistire on that table, I wonder if you have adhesive failure and peeling after a few season in the Upper North East humid and bitter cold. I guess you could try and see what happens. That is certainly the most economical way to go, for longenvity of course Teak would be ideal- but expensive.

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mrjinx007

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#8 posted 100 days ago

Looking at the list of material, it says 6”x6”x8” – 3. They are for corner support according to the directions since they are only 8” long. Shouldn’t it be 6”x6”x8” – 4??
Anyways, The legs on the bench can be 2) 4”X6” -36” joined together for each leg making a 4”X10ish.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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mrjinx007

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#9 posted 100 days ago

I find the design in step 9 flowed as the entire table top is supported by the 2- 2X4’s that are attached to the 4X6’s?? Not 6×6’s?

You are better off cutting 2- 2X4’s along the length of the table and half-lap cutting them to each 2X4 it intersects so the table top is supported both in width and length.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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runswithscissors

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#10 posted 99 days ago

As suggested above, I would make the legs like a box. Rip the planks (1 or 3/4” thick) with 45 deg. edges, then miter them together. If carefully done, this can look just like solid wood, and will be less likely to check or split with changes in weather. This would be a good place for biscuits, if you have a biscuit joiner. You could also glue and use small galvanized finishing nails, nailing from both sides of each corner. With nails going in a right angles to each other, it shouldn’t come apart. For fastening to the bench or table top, fit a block of wood at the end through which you can drive screws. You could either fasten the block to the bench top first, then attach the leg to that, or use a very long screwdriver bit in your impact driver. Small lag screws would work too, with a socket wrench and very long extender. Actually, that last part sounds hard to do, so I hope somebody comes up with a better scheme.

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BenoitM

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#11 posted 99 days ago

Thanks a lot guys, really helpful!

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/

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Buckethead

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#12 posted 99 days ago

There is a router bit that excels at jointing corners to look like one solid piece of stock. (A corner lock miter bit)

I have installed hollow PT columns that allow a structural tie down to pass though it to hold down the beam and roof members with an all thread (or cable) without being visible.

It provides plenty of glue surface, as well as interlock.

PT is generally made using yellow pine, and is also wet (relatively speaking) when installed. Pine is noted for movement. These joints have not failed in spite of these factors, and were used in exterior applications. (Though I should add that they were painted).

-- Bucket, any person that spends 10k on a bicycle is guaranteed to be a $@I almost started to like you. -bhog

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BenoitM

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#13 posted 99 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbJszKqyfBA

Ok, so I really need to work on my router table now :-)

Thanks!

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/

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BenoitM

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#14 posted 31 days ago

The table is done: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/103675

Thanks all for your help!

-- Benoit, Montreal Quebec, http://cavacouper.blogspot.ca/

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