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capttom

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05-09-2014 02:10 AM

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First time on this site,so if this has been covered,sorry about that. I finished making my router table and reached for my router bits,realized i need to upgrade. looking for thoughts on name brand[bosch freud] vs no name. Are they worth the extra cost,or is there not much difference? Thanks, looking forward to learning and seeing great woodwork.


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kdc68

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#1 posted 05-09-2014 02:15 AM

Short answer yes. For example, buying a Whiteside (premium) stays sharper longer and nets the best results. Buy the best you can afford

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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Fish22

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#2 posted 05-09-2014 02:28 AM

I bought a set from MLCS Woodworking and have been happy with them, but I agree with kdc, buy the best you can afford.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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woodchuckerNJ

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#3 posted 05-09-2014 02:29 AM

Short answer is NO.
It’s complicated.

For most stuff, I buy woodline.
When I have really critical stuff, I will spend more on premium, whiteside, CMT’s.
But I find there is not much diff.

I did buy Jesada a premium… spent over 400 on bits, and only 2 out of many were good. There were out of balance carbides (some stuck out more than the other), some did’nt line up with the bearing on flush trim,
Way too many issues. I have a raised panel set that the coping is not matched on. So you don’t always get what you pay for. Jesada is dead to me.

You can do well with lower cost bits. They work real well. Just stick with the few good offbrands

Woodline, MLCS, a few others.

For the finest work, the most knarly grain in wood, go for the whiteside. But understand you can buy 2 bits for the price of a whiteside, sometimes 3. And I don’t find the whiteside 3x better. Better yes, but not 3 times.

If you want to buy American, buy Whiteside.

-- Jeff NJ

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NiteWalker

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#4 posted 05-09-2014 02:35 AM

If you have a cheaper set or cheaper bits, use those. Whatever you end up using the most, replace with whiteside router bits.

Hartville tool and holbren are both excellent sources for whitesides.
CMT, freud, amana and infinity all make good bits too, but whitesides are my favorites. They hold up and they’re not too expensive.

I use MLCS bits on occasion too, and they’re ok, but not even close to whitesides.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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capttom

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#5 posted 05-09-2014 02:51 AM

thanks for your comments,I have always bought the best I could afford, I did buy a whitside half inch up spiral for box joints and mortise pockets but a whole set is out of my comfort zone. I think
i already knew what the responses would be, I guess I just wanted to hear it.

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pintodeluxe

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#6 posted 05-09-2014 03:15 AM

I don’t find the brand name bits any more expensive, or at least not by much. I have had good luck with Rockler, Freud, and Whiteside brand bits. The Bosch bits don’t seem to stay sharp as long.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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Mark Shymanski

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#7 posted 05-09-2014 05:17 AM

I’ve become a lot more cautious about buying ‘sets’ of bits. It seems that I only use a select few from that set and, as mentioned above, I would upgrade individual bits as the less expensive ones broke or wear out. It is nice to have the set to experiment with and it has helped me get a better idea of which bits I will actually use. So on the learning side the sets are worth it IMHO but economically I think it’s a wash.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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knotscott

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#8 posted 05-09-2014 09:26 AM

I’m in favor of spending the router bit budget wisely….that can include some highend bits or a small set of “decent quality” bits, depending on the application of what you’re building. A swing set might benefit from some rounded edges, but it might not matter if the edges are perfect. On the opposite end of the spectrum, a family heirloom caliber formal dining room table should have the best edge you can get IMO. I’m not generally in favor of spending big bucks for lots of low quality bits. Off-name bits are more likely to cause injury and perform poorly, so I strongly suggest avoiding them and sticking with at least a decent level brand.

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Monte Pittman

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#9 posted 05-09-2014 09:42 AM

Cheap bits dull quickly. Then you will replace them frequently.

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bowedcurly

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#10 posted 05-09-2014 10:33 AM

WS is s smooth running bit it can make a junky router look good, I mean made my junky router cut like a dream. They are balanced better and run and cut very smooth, try one you will like it.

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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NiteWalker

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#11 posted 05-09-2014 10:44 AM

Scott, great article on router bits, though I would put cmt right up there with whiteside, freud, etc.
I have some cmt bits several years old that still cut cleanly and smoothly. :-)

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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