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Forum topic by AtlasRook posted 05-06-2014 02:21 PM 932 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AtlasRook

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05-06-2014 02:21 PM

Looking at a great deal for a Jet 1HP Dust Collector (blue paint, so a bit older) for ~$100, or a HF 2HP one for new price (think I got a coupon for $180 or something).

Pros / Cons?


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crank49

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#1 posted 05-06-2014 03:34 PM

There are coupons for the HF 2HP dust collector in practically every wood working, DIY, and home improvement magazine out there. It’s almost difficult to find a magazine without the HF ad page. The current price is $159 I think. Depending on the store, sometimes they will take the 20% off in addition to the sale price. I paid $129 for mine, 3 years ago.
I can’t see any reason to look at any other brand. They all will need to have a 1 micron (or better) bag upgrade or be retrofitted with a cartridge filter. It is a good idea to put a separator in the line before junk goes through the fan. While Harbor Freight is probably over stating the horsepower, Jet, Delta, Rikon and everybody else is too.
Bottom line, I have one, it works very well, and I paid less than $150 for the machine, a bundle of hose, hose fittings, blast gates and accessories. I am completely satisfied.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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#2 posted 05-06-2014 04:41 PM

I am satisfied with the HF DC. The drawback is if anything goes wrong, can you get parts for it. Jet; yes. HF ? If a motor goes bad, it can be retrofitted with most any motor with a bit of work. Other than the motor, there isn’t much else that can go bad.

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#3 posted 05-06-2014 04:50 PM

I would go with the Harbor Freight.

I have a Jet (DC650A), and it is a good performer but only develops 650cfm.

The HF unit is rated at 1550cfm.

I use a 15’ hose with the Jet that I drag from machine to machine. When I plumb my shop (soon, I hope!), the Jet just won’t have enough oomph to get the job done and I will be a more powerful machine. The HF is on my short list.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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woodchuckerNJ

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#4 posted 05-06-2014 04:52 PM

I have the blue jet 1hp.

The cone was installed in the wrong position. I had to remove the cone with a stiff putty knife (break the welds).
Re-installed correctly on top I welded you can use liquid nails, caulk, rivets.

Mine was free from a friend. If I had to buy, I would buy a 3hp unit on craigslist or ebay.
I would skip the HF which is really a 1.5 hp unit, it is not 2hp. Depending on where you live there are lots of used collectors out there both cyclone and single stage.

But that’s my opinion. Right now there are a few powermatic 3hp units up for sale on ebay.. check your local and surrounding craigs list. Last resort, I would go HF..
The advantage of the 3hp is a real lot of static pressure pull. So you can do more.

-- Jeff NJ

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Shawn Masterson

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#5 posted 05-06-2014 05:03 PM

People need to stop quoting CFM ratings. There is no possible way anything under 3hp with less than a 14” impeller will pull 1500 cfm. It’s just not possible. Even the average 3hp unit is only 1000-1200 cfm, and when you add a separator it drops the cfm rating. Angry rant over

That being said The HF unit is about the best buy for the money. If you are going big the Clearvue is the only way to go. There is nothing that comes close for the money.

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SCOTSMAN

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#6 posted 05-06-2014 05:29 PM

I think all of these dust collectors in that price range are virtually the same model with different logo’s and perhaps small fittings switches etc.But to me they all look like similar family of machines , It appears that this happens many times with machinery from India or China ,in my very humble opinion of course.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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TheDane

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#7 posted 05-06-2014 05:35 PM

When the manufacturers stop quoting CFM and HP, I will too. Their ratings may not be accurate but they are all I have to go on.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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woodchuckerNJ

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#8 posted 05-06-2014 06:09 PM

They are not all the same. Many are. Some are definetly superior. It’s in the motor, and the impeller. Some have larger impellers, some better impeller designs.

While many of you are enamored with the 2hp HF unit, the numbers don’t support it, it really is a 1.5.
I am sure if anyone looks at the amp draw, they will see it is not much, and it’s a small impeller.

I have nothing against the hf unit, but you can do much better used.

-- Jeff NJ

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crank49

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#9 posted 05-06-2014 07:39 PM

A recent woodworking magazine comparing dust collectors and basically said just take half of what any of the manufacturers claim and you will be pretty close to reality.

-- Michael: Hillary has a long list of accomplishments, though most DAs would refer to them as felonies.

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TheDane

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#10 posted 05-06-2014 09:37 PM

FWIW—Steve Johnson, the Down to Earth Woodworker, recently installed a new dust collection system in his shop. He decided to ignore the reviews and instead created a Decision Matrix that he used to get apples-to-apples comparisons.

He wound up installing a JDS cyclone, and did a multi-part series of videos on YouTube that are worth watching.

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGOGgzFqkLA&list=UUI5vz5Jl1tFCPkGyHMT1y9Q&feature=share&index=7

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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