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Forum topic by woodworkingdrew posted 05-04-2014 11:25 PM 1323 views 1 time favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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woodworkingdrew

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05-04-2014 11:25 PM

So I decided to stop by my local woodcraft store for the first time today.What a great store, they have an excellent selection of products. What caught my eye the most was the selection of Festool products they had. Who can afford these tools?? I wanted to hear from people if these tools are being used mostly by professionals or everyday DIYers.

-- Andrew, California


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JAAune

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#1 posted 05-04-2014 11:31 PM

Largely by professionals and well-off hobbyists that enjoy using high-end tools.

They tend to be easier and faster to use and are built to last a lot longer. In our shop, we used to go through a Porter Cable random orbit sander in 2 years time. The Festool Rotex held out for 7 years before it needed a $70 repair and we’ve been doing a lot more furniture these days than we ever did in the past.

-- See my work at http://remmertstudios.com and http://altaredesign.com

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copcarcollector

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#2 posted 05-04-2014 11:32 PM

Plenty of people can (and do) afford them. In fact here in the USA, the Festool prices are comparatively cheaper than other parts of the world. I know of both hobbyists and pros that use Festool. Ever watch TOH? Check out what Tom Silva uses in some shots! (And no, Festool is NOT a sponsor of that show!)

Expensive, yes and out of reach for many. But they make great quality tools. Don’t want to pay for them? That’s OK too! There are many other brands out there to choose from.

Festool is a system based around their dust extractors. Working almost dust free is a plus on the Festool column.

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Texcaster

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#3 posted 05-05-2014 12:49 AM

Word of mouth testimonial for me. The Festo random orbital is the only sander I would own.

-- Bill....... " was you dryin' your nails or a wavin' me goodbye?" Tom Waits

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Gixxerjoe04

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#4 posted 05-05-2014 01:10 AM

I noticed that when i went to woodcraft for the first time, i bet they’re great tools but i couldn’t afford them unless i won the lottery.

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diverlloyd

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#5 posted 05-05-2014 01:22 AM

My first time to woodcraft I went with my wife and within 10ft of the door she said that I was only allowed to go there with adult supervision. I buy lumber from there on occasion and only in the biggest pieces they have because it is so much cheaper then buying their smaller pieces. I have found its better to buy the best you can afford so you only have to buy it once. Also I will look there and then see if my ma and pa hardware store can order the item in question. If they can I always buy from them even if it’s going to be more money.

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woodworkingdrew

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#6 posted 05-05-2014 01:26 AM

I just wonder for the high price tag if the tool is that much higher quality then others on the market. I too cant afford festools. I would consider investing if all my money went into woodworking, however I am in the process of rebuilding my house so that takes priority.

-- Andrew, California

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UpstateNYdude

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#7 posted 05-05-2014 01:26 AM

I just became a big Festool owner, I sold off all my Milwaukee stuff in an effort to keep the dust down and I can tell you that is exactly what they do very little to almost no dust using the extractor and I’ve never used such well-balanced perfectly thought out tools.

I realize some don’t think its worth it or can’t afford it but I will never buy any other sanders again, I even sanded down the drywall in my house with it, zero dust and very little vibration, usually after sanding I’d be choking on the crap in the air or be covered in it and it would take 10 minutes for the feeling to come back into my hand now I have neither of those problems.

As for the 1400 router never had a better all around router in my life easy to use easy to setup and again awesome dust collection.

The track saw I have the TS 55 I’ve never been able to break down sheet goods more accurately and easily then I have with this beautiful saw and again almost completely dust free.

The people at Festool definitely listened to their consumers and took in feedback from real users because when I tell you they are wonderful, well thought out tools and that I couldn’t be any more pleased to own them I sincerely mean that.

I know the price tags are hard to look at but once you take the plunge you’ll be hooked.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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NiteWalker

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#8 posted 05-05-2014 02:19 AM

I’m not a fan of all their tools, but they really set the bar with some of them, like their track saws and the domino, which I want very badly. Things are looking up though, with the current 10% of salt at most retailers. I think I may have a domino very soon. :-)

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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a1Jim

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#9 posted 05-05-2014 02:21 AM

Copcarcollector
I would give you odds that none of the DIY shows pays a dime for any of the Festool tools used on their shows,this is very cheep adverting assuming that’s all these shows get. I think it is unrealistic to think that’s all these shows get is free tools, given the exposure to millions of people who watch these shows .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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Fish22

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#10 posted 05-05-2014 02:25 AM

a1Jim,

Copcarcollector is correct, Festool has no connection or sponsorship with the show or Tom. TOH is actually or was up until this season, sponsored by Dewalt. This was confirmed by a couple of sources, the first being Festool USA and the second was Kevin O’Connor.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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a1Jim

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#11 posted 05-05-2014 02:34 AM

If you say so Bryan. Have you every seen products in movies ? They pay big bucks for those supposed accidental appears in the moves.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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UpstateNYdude

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#12 posted 05-05-2014 03:56 AM

Oh I forgot my Domino XL 700 that amazing beast of a machine makes M&T easier then ever unless your going for visual joints but advice for spend the extra and get the XL700 if you go for a Domino it can do all the sizes that the 500 can do now with a $70 adapter from senecawoodworking.com oh and get the domplates too if you work with a lot of plywood makes life easier for you.

-- Nick, “Discovering the truth about ourselves is a lifetime's work, but it's worth the effort.” ― Fred Rogers, Be My Neighbor

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Fish22

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#13 posted 05-05-2014 01:04 PM

Jim

I agree that companies pay a lot to have there products in movies, James Bond with the different cars is just one scenario. Iron Man with Audi, Transformers with Chevrolet are additional examples. But in the case of TOH, Festool doesn’t give them anything.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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harveysoriginals

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#14 posted 05-05-2014 01:33 PM

I hope to have a Rotex someday! I have used one owned by a fellow woodworker and it was crazy good!

-- The most dangerous tool in my shop is the one I am currently using! Harvey

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Matt Przybylski

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#15 posted 05-05-2014 01:54 PM

I bought into the a Festool system early on with the extractor and TS55 which as someone already mentioned is an amazing tool for breaking down sheet goods. I couldn’t make a steady cut with a circular saw, even with a guide, as my cut would always wander. I then slowly started to buy their other tools, the router, the sanders (yes, plural), domino, etc. eventually as my other tools break down they will get replaced by Festool tools. The only issue I’m having right now is buying their drills. I can’t stomach the price as well as the centrotec system because it gets extremely expensive going that route.

If I had to do it all over again I’d buy everything Festool from the get go. Even if you’re a hobbyist you can’t put a price on virtually dust free woodworking.

-- Matt, Illinois, http://www.reintroducing.com

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