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Forum topic by MattyMattAg posted 05-04-2014 07:47 PM 1896 views 1 time favorited 49 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MattyMattAg

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05-04-2014 07:47 PM

Hey guys,

Is the biggest difference between the GO715P hybrid saw and the G1023RL the power of the motor? 2hp to 3hp?

I’m wondering if it is worth the extra $400 to get 3hp for a guy who is mainly a weekend furniture maker doing woodworking because he loves it. I will admit though that I LOVE new tools and always falter on the side of getting something more expensive if it means better quality and that it will last longer.

Thanks for any advice concerning these two saws, and the reviews in the review section were really helpful!!

-- If Jesus was a carpenter, what better profession could there be?


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crank49

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#1 posted 05-04-2014 08:58 PM

There is a huge difference in the design.
The mechanical parts of the G1023RL are much heavier and are basically a completely different design than the G0715P.
The 1023 has cabinet mounted trunions.
The 715 has table mounted trunions.
Check the weight difference.
They are really apples and oranges in comparison.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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Acal51

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#2 posted 05-05-2014 12:18 AM

Spend the extra money. U won’t regret it. I was looking at the 715 because of it being 110v and didn’t have 220v. I did some research and talked to so guys at work and settled on the G0690. I wired in a sub panel to the garage and never looked back. Glad I stepped up to the 3hp cabinet saw. Cuts like butter.

I am also looking for a grizzly jointer and knowing it was a great decision to get the step up. I’m going to go right for the 8” model.

Also I got the delta 50-273 mobile base for the G0690. Best base for the money. No sag and rolls with ease around my garage. I believe the 1023 has the same footprint as the 690.

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knotscott

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#3 posted 05-05-2014 12:22 AM

Bet ya can tell the G1023RL from the hybrid….

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paxorion

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#4 posted 05-05-2014 03:08 AM

Here’s what I see as the major differences…
  1. The G0715 will likely bring you back to the forum, asking about the dreaded elevation alignment issue
  2. The G1023RL will likely bring you back to the forum whenever there is another discussion in the “epic” G1023 series vs G0690/G0691 matchup series

In short, spend the extra money, and keep coming back to LJ…

-- paxorion

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MattyMattAg

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#5 posted 05-05-2014 05:52 AM

I think I’m leaning towards the G1023 but am curious if I should add on the router table. Grizzly offers 2, but one is more expensive and comes with a fence system.

Wondering if that addition is worth $399?

I’m in the market for a router table, but maybe the TS addition isn’t the way to go. Maybe I should get a free standing router table. Too many choices!!

-- If Jesus was a carpenter, what better profession could there be?

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MT_Stringer

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#6 posted 05-05-2014 06:02 AM

You can never have too many routers. :-). Or clamps.
I smile every time I turn on my 1023. Yes it has the router wing. I keep a router mounted with a round over bit ready to go. I also have a router table top I can set up for other routing operations.
Good luck.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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knotscott

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#7 posted 05-05-2014 09:30 AM

If you’ve got the space, a free standing router table is the way to go IMO. If you’re space challenged like I am, a router table built into the saw is an excellent space saver.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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EastLake

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#8 posted 05-05-2014 12:00 PM

Matt,

There is nothing worse than being on the fence about something and not knowing which way to go. Bottom line, get what you want, and a little more, because you will always wish it did “x” more like “y” model does.

Secondly, I have put a router table onto the side of my own Griz 0444Z TS. Fabricated a lift system that works great and built a fence that slid over the tablesaw fence with a dust port. It worked good and kept the space down. I have always been a fan of the tablesaw inserts for small shops if you need to keep space down.

However, having just gotten a G1035 Shaper, there is something to be said for a separate machine that you don’t have to constantly raise and lower to use the tablesaw on. If you mess up a piece, you can just recut it on the separate shaper/router table instead of having to readjust the height on your tablesaw insert.

Bottom line, IMHO, if you are spending $400 anyway and have the space, get the separate unit. Ask yourself:
1.) What do I need to do the job?
2.) Do I have the space for what I want, or do I need to find other options?

Where the two intersect is your answer.

-- Mark, Western New York, East Lake Woodcraft

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#9 posted 05-05-2014 12:25 PM

Matt I have the 715 .just came back from grizzly in pa spoke to one of there repair techs about problems having with the 715 blade alignment . He gave me some advice on how to possibly fix it . Asked him if I decide to buy a new saw which one he would recommend . He said he would buy the 1023 due to less moving parts and easier maintenance . He also said the send out less replacement parts for this saw then others . Just my 2 cents

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MattyMattAg

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#10 posted 05-05-2014 01:32 PM

Wow guys, this is some great information and exactly why I decided to join this community and leave the other I was a part of.

Going to visit the wife’s folks in a couple of weeks and go to Springfield. Going to pick up my 1023… probably a wash on fuel compared to shipping charges, but I at least control the delivery.

Fine Woodworking has done tool reviews on router tables, and I know there are a ton here as well. Going to read through the old archives, but if anyone has a suggestion on a good router table in the $400 range, feel free to mention it along with things to avoid.

Also think I am going to get the Jet mobile base for the 1023 off the suggestion above. The Shop Fox one seems to have mixed reviews and will possibly sag.

-- If Jesus was a carpenter, what better profession could there be?

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HorizontalMike

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#11 posted 05-05-2014 01:46 PM

MattyMatTAg: ”...I think I’m leaning towards the G1023 but am curious if I should add on the router table. Grizzly offers 2, but one is more expensive and comes with a fence system.
Wondering if that addition is worth $399?...”

To me, YES, that $400 addition was worth it. Nice router fence that works well with a 2-1/2in DC hose.

In the image, I have the fence turned for storage. I normally use the fence rotate CCW so I can utilize the entire TS surface, routing from right to left.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#12 posted 05-05-2014 02:32 PM

great photo comp knotscott

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BDY

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#13 posted 05-05-2014 03:17 PM

HorizontalMike, did you add the mechanism for the lift/height adjustment? Looking at the photos on Grizzly’s site, it’s not clear to me if it comes like that or you added yourself.

I’m currently trying to decide whether I want to blow big bucks on a SawStop, or go for a Grizzly 1023 + router table extension. Was considering the latter with an Excalibur extension + JessEm lift insert. Grizzly’s router extensions looked rather limited based on their website.

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Richard

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#14 posted 05-05-2014 04:03 PM

BDY , If I had the money I still don’t think I would go for the Saw Stop just because of the Saftey Feature. I have used one at the Tech Shop and the time to change blades and get them adjusted to the safety system is just to much of a hassel for me. Plus I have been useing table saws off and on for over 40 years and still have my fingers by just being aware of where they are in relation to the blade. My Dad and Grandfather pounded that into my head from the first time I picked up a hand saw.
Save the extra from the SS and get another tool.

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BDY

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#15 posted 05-05-2014 04:21 PM

Don’t want to derail the thread here, but that’s the first I’ve heard of “time for changed blades to adjust to the safety system”, and I’ve read a ton of reviews and threads on various forums. Can you explain what that means in a sentence or two?

Interestingly, I went to my local Woodcraft this weekend to see if I would have to pay the $250 overweight shipping fee if I bought a SawStop from their store, only to find out that that particular branch no longer sells them since the owner was changing out a blown blade/cartridge and the saw came on while his arm was down there. No details were given but apparently he sustained “minor injuries”. Yikes!

Your post is definitely leaning me toward going the Grizzly + more tools route.

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