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Blackie_

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05-01-2014 06:51 PM

I’m now at the point that something has to be done, I’m tired of working oil into the bearings of my guides to unfreeze the bearings locking from sawdust, I understand Carter makes kits but is this my only alternative? I have the Grizzly GO555P 14” and the guides are stock guides that came with the saw.

The only time I use the guides is when I’m re-sawing logs any other time I use the carter stabilizer with 3/16 – 1/4” blades.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs


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RogerM

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#1 posted 05-01-2014 06:54 PM

Buy the Carter guides and your performance will improve and your described problems will vanish. Speaking from experience!!!!!

-- Roger M, Aiken, SC

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woodchuckerNJ

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#2 posted 05-01-2014 06:55 PM

well first working oil is counter productive. You needed to clean it out I use mineral spirits and an ultrasonic cleaner.

But it just indicates that I need a new bearing soon.

I ordered bearings online.. A bunch of them. I clean them once or twice, then put a new one in.

Much cheaper from a bearing place, than a woodworking outfit. Order a bunch.

-- Jeff NJ

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Blackie_

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#3 posted 05-01-2014 07:16 PM

Thanks Roger, and Jeff, I’m going to go with Roger on this, I’m already a firm believer in Carter with the stabilizer it’s just that I’m not often re-sawing logs I’m mostly cutting with a 3/16” blade and the stabilizer requires no guides at all so they would get minimal use, I viewed the video with the conversion kit from Carter and I’m impressed.

Nope, scratch that, going with bearings instead, the little I’ll be using them to me isn’t worth $209.00 which also included shipping.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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DocSavage45

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#4 posted 05-01-2014 07:47 PM

Randy,

A idea? Lots of saw dust is generated. Have you considered a dust collection set up to reduce that?

Most of the stuff I read suggests using a lube ( dry lube?)as opposed to oil in woodworking machines.

I haven’t gotten to resawing on my GO555 and I haven’t checked out the bearings. Lubed the needle bearings in my scroll saw using a synthetic lube used in racing cars. maybe overkill? but I’m probably only doing this once.

Let us know the results?

Tom

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Blackie_

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#5 posted 05-01-2014 08:46 PM

You know Tom, It makes perfect since that oil would attract the dust thus as Jeff pointed out counter productive so I’ll stop with the oil, as for as dust collection yes the Grizzly has a 4” port and it’s hooked to my DC.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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EastLake

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#6 posted 05-01-2014 08:56 PM

The advice so far is money-on. Soak the bearings in a shallow pool of mineral spirits for a few hours. Spin the crap out of them, wipe off the gunk, and rinse and repeat. If the bearings are still good (and they generally are), they should spin free with no problem.

Dust collection helps a bit, but it’s not going to stop all of it. Periodically it is going to be necessary to clean the bearings.

-- Mark, Western New York, East Lake Woodcraft

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 05-01-2014 08:59 PM

Blade guide bearings pretty cheap if they freeze up and cannot clean them up with old worn tooth brush replace them.
I can buy a lot of sealed bearings for what that Carter set-up will cost you. Carter bearings will need replacing too, and will be buying more of them when time comes.

http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/SealedBearings/Kit8338

I have been looking at going these bearings next time order them.

http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/Kit7513

You can buy OEM quality sealed bearings for less than those I have linked.

-- Bill

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Jim Finn

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#8 posted 05-01-2014 09:32 PM

I replaced the original guide bearings on my GO555 with locally purchased ones from a bearing shop. About $5 each.

-- In God We Trust

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MontanaBob

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#9 posted 05-01-2014 09:48 PM

I also replace the bearings, from a local bearing supply place… Ordered several of both sizes… If I ever hear of a better fix…. I’ll post it..

-- To realize our true destiny, we must be guided not by a myth from our past, but by a vision of our future

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bigblockyeti

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#10 posted 05-01-2014 10:18 PM

If you can get replacement bearings that are sealed instead of just shielded the problem will be greatly reduced.

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Richard

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#11 posted 05-01-2014 10:26 PM

If the replacement bearings are sealed that should stop the problem because no sawdust can get into them to lock them up.

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Sodabowski

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#12 posted 05-01-2014 10:34 PM

FWIW, I’d scrap the bearings and mounts, and use ceramic block guides instead. Or get the Carter stuff, despite the price which I consider a long-run investment!

-- Holy scrap Barkman!

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DocSavage45

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#13 posted 05-01-2014 10:53 PM

Randy, what I was thinking is adding another dust collection hose to the table area when resawing since it is more dust intensive.

I checked out the bearings. Ceramic w/double seal? Way to go!

-- Cau Haus Designs, Thomas J. Tieffenbacher

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Blackie_

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#14 posted 05-01-2014 11:01 PM

OIC Tom, I have considered the Carter but just not ready to bite that bullet yet, I have my wood stock full no more room and all logs are cut, enough wood to last a very… long time, so once I pull these bearings off I won’t need them again once again for a very long time as I’ll have the carter stabilizer back on, when I resaw my box walls I normally keep the stabilizer on and just slap a 10 or 14 tpi 1/4” it does just fine.

-- Randy - If I'm not on LJ's then I'm making Saw Dust. Please feel free to visit my store location at http://www.facebook.com/randy.blackstock.custom.wood.designs

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Jim Jakosh

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#15 posted 05-01-2014 11:01 PM

Randy, one of my friends who makes lots of bandsaw boxed just changed to a Carter single guide behind the blade and he says it works perfectly for 1/4 ,3/16 or 1/8 blades. When he goes to bigger blades he has to change to the roller assembly on his Grizzly G0555 saw. it sounds like what you already have for the smaller blades.

I also have that saw but I don’t have any problem with sawdust getting in the bearings. It might be because I have a vacuum pickup right under the cutting area of the blade. The blade passes right through the PVC vacuum tube…....Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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