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David1982

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04-30-2014 01:59 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw cast iron hybrid contractor grizzly

Im going to start getting back into woodworking. Its been 15 years since I’ve done anything. Nothing pro but a hobbiest. Maybe make some small items to make some money. My problem is knowing what saw to get. I like the cabinet saws but they’re too expensive. Ill settle for a contractor saw but leaning towards the hybrids. I looked at Ridgid 4512 but people were having issues with blade alignment. Also the grizzly 715P. I did notice some people were having the same issues as the ridgid. I would like to know you’re opinions on those if you own either. Or on what you have. Id like to stay under 12-1300 or so. And “prefer” cabinet mounted trunnions and cast iron top/wings. Ive been looking for what seems like forever and need help. I want a good solid accurate saw that will last me for years. Thank you ALL in advance.

David


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bigblockyeti

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#1 posted 04-30-2014 02:19 AM

Do you have to get a new saw or are you open to getting a used one? The $1200 – $1300 range should get you an excellent Unisaw or PM66. The key is patience when waiting for that great deal.

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buildingmonkey

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#2 posted 04-30-2014 02:20 AM

I have a ten year old Unisaw, can vouch for that. Mine has 3 hp, biesemeyer fence, hard to beat. I use a shark guard, much better than the stock guard. Would prefer a used Unisaw compared to any cheap new saw. Don’t care much for the hybrids, the delta contractor saw is nothing next to the Uni, would also consider a GO1023 Grizzly or a PM66. The PM66 is probably the best machine, but nothing wrong with the Uni or the Grizzly.

-- Jim from Kansas

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HillbillyShooter

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#3 posted 04-30-2014 02:32 AM

IMHO a used PM66 would be your best bet. Mine is 20-years old and is still in perfect alignment just like the day I set up without any adjustments whatsoever in the 20-years.

-- John C. -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth." George Washington

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Shawn Masterson

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#4 posted 04-30-2014 02:34 AM

+100 for used. 12-$1300 buys a lot of saw used. I don’t know where you live, but a hybrid is a waste of time. They don’t have the power of a cabinet saw, and take up the same footprint. You might as well have the real thing.

IMHO

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Paul

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#5 posted 04-30-2014 02:37 AM

Depending on where you live. Steel City warehouse deals can’t be beat, but they are local showroom models for pickup only. I got my contractor for $500 and really can’t be happier with it.

It was a brand new saw that customers got to look at. Cabinet mounted truns. DC is excellent after sealing the “cabinet”. Here in Chicago they Craigslist their warehouse deals everyday.

Paul

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David1982

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#6 posted 04-30-2014 02:48 AM

i live in eastern washington. like i said I’m just getting back into woodworking. haven’t done anything since woodshop in school. and we had a nice cabinet saw (brand forgotten) the only reason I’m leaning towards hybrid was cost. i like the cabinet look over contractor but i really don’t care as long as its a reliable saw. i see a lot of you commented pm66. is that one of the ‘holy grail’ of saws? and if thats the case then i can wait and look until i find one. i am open to buying used as long as its a really good saw. thanks again. and comment on the pm66. do you have one, have you used one. are they accurate. thanks. you guys rock.

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NiteWalker

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#7 posted 04-30-2014 03:02 AM

One of the grizzly cabinet saws is on sale now at just under your budget iirc. If you can swing a cabinet saw, go for it.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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NiteWalker

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#8 posted 04-30-2014 03:02 AM

One of the grizzly cabinet saws is on sale now at just under your budget iirc. If you can swing a cabinet saw, go for it.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Loren

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#9 posted 04-30-2014 03:13 AM

Grizzly has a yearly scratch and dent tent sale. If you’re
in the area and can wait, it’s said to be a source for
great bargains on machinery that already gives a
lot of value for the money.

I haven’t owned many Grizzly machines but a lot of
people on this site own them and like them a lot.

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David1982

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#10 posted 04-30-2014 03:18 AM

thank you for all the input and advice guys. I’ve decided to wait and save a little more. I’m going to go with a new powermatic pm1000. just gotta build up the cash.

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Paul

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#11 posted 04-30-2014 03:37 AM

If your already into that sort of cash range might pinch a few more pennies and buy a sawstop so that you don’t cut your fingers off.

Fuel, check! Fire, check!

Paul

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SugarbeatCo

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#12 posted 04-30-2014 04:29 AM

look at Oliver..

-- Always one more tool away from being an excellent woodworker...

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JaySybrandy

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#13 posted 04-30-2014 08:22 AM

what saw a table saw drop saw compound saw bandsaw ..

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#14 posted 04-30-2014 09:21 AM

If you’ve got 220v, a Grizzly G1023RL is within budget and darn tough to beat at that price point. It’s a substantial step up from any hybrid.

If you don’t have 220v, I’ve all but thrown in the towel on the R4512, 21833, and even the G0715P….the on again/off again, we’ve fixed it, we haven’t fixed saga has been going on for too long. It’s got to be incredibly frustrating for owners. The Delta 36-725 or a Steel City 35990 are looking to be the only unsoiled entry level full size new models. For ~ $1k, the Cman 22116 (by Steel City) is also a viable choice…..from there the Jet Pro Shop, GI 50-200R, and Laguna Fusion hover near or just above budget.

A good used saw is always an option if the right deal comes along. What neck of the woods are you in?

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unbob

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#15 posted 04-30-2014 03:54 PM

I am in the same area, and good equipment is getting more scarce on the CL and ect.
I believe you could still find that Unisaw or PM 66 by placing a wanted ad in the Giant Nickel paper that covers the region.
The good deals are still there, just have to be more pro-active. There is a lot of equipment that is just sitting, the owners just don’t bother listing it for sale.
Myself, would much prefer a used US made PM 66 over the same branded import.

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