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116 days ago

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If you were to build a counter top for an outdoor kitchen, which wood would you choose and how would you finish it?

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca


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oldretiredjim

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#1 posted 116 days ago

I actually installed tile because I knew I was going to use a hose to clean it. I have used redwood on a few outdoor tables and I like the way it turned out. No matter what you choose it will be exposed to weather so all the choices have drawbacks.

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#2 posted 116 days ago

Teak. Ipe, though I’ve read conflicting reports about whether Ipe will glue or not. Neither is cheap, and teak can be quite costly. I saw a grill at a local shop with a Brazilian cherry surround. I forget what the actual species is called, but the grain resembled Ipe to me. Very dense, with interlocking grain.

-- Bucket, any person that spends 10k on a bicycle is guaranteed to be a $@I almost started to like you. -bhog

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#3 posted 116 days ago

Was it Jatoba?

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca

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#4 posted 116 days ago

I wouldn’t use wood, period. Use something more suitable to the conditions. Heck, make a poured concrete tabletop.

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a1Jim

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#5 posted 116 days ago

Ipe is a good choice ,it will hold up to the weather very well and it’s even fire rated. It is more typical to use tile or concrete products.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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LiveEdge

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#6 posted 115 days ago

Maybe Buckethead was referring to Brazilian Teak which is really Cumaru and is similar in appearance and characteristics to Ipe (it is also fire rated). I have a whole deck of it and it has weathered very well over three years with only stain and no sealant.

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#7 posted 115 days ago

It certainly looked similar to what you have there, LiveEdge, but just a bit darker. It was also laminated with 2” rips, so it was tougher to distinguish. It was a brick reddish color, but looked as if it had been oiled.

Your deck is beautiful, and definitely looks similar to the Ipe I just installed for a client. I would not be able to distinguish them visually. Maybe by the sawdust?

-- Bucket, any person that spends 10k on a bicycle is guaranteed to be a $@I almost started to like you. -bhog

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#8 posted 115 days ago

More and more lately I’m seeing questions of what wood is best for an outdoor application that will have to withstand the weather elements. The answer is, no wood is best for this. There are so many good looking and more appropriate plastics and composites that would better serve the purpose ; wood is best for indoors.

As good as wood looks when it’s finished, next year it won’t look near as good after spending the winter outdoors, especially in Canada. ..And the regular maintenance (read : covering it up in the weather and occasional re-finishing) just makes it not worth it in my opinion, unless you just want it to age gray and get porous (not good for a countertop). How about granite ?

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#9 posted 115 days ago

I’ll say this: I have installed more than ten ipe decks, two of which were on direct oceanfront. Those were both in 2008. Still looking great, if only a little less color. Likewise I have installed composite decks, and no such good reports. In fact, I don’t think they look great when new.

Of course some applications are well suited to composites and plastics, such as exterior trim on a house, but considering their cost, many people choose the natural beauty of wood.

Oceanfront exterior should always use Azek or similar plastic.

Caveat: I haven’t installed Azek decking which looks pretty sweet in pictures, but don’t they all?

-- Bucket, any person that spends 10k on a bicycle is guaranteed to be a $@I almost started to like you. -bhog

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Yonak

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#10 posted 115 days ago

You’re right, Buckethead. Plastic, likely, would not be good for a countertop. Especially one on which something hot off the grill would be set.

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#11 posted 115 days ago

A couple of emails back and forth with the client today. He’s really bent on having a wood product, cutting board used but is fearful of any toxicity that Ipe may possess . Can anyone speak to that?

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca

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Buckethead

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#12 posted 115 days ago

I know that Ipe dust is toxic, so that takes it off the food safe list in my book. Teak is good, though. Is this to be under a roof? Like on a lanai or covered patio. In that case, most any hardwood could be used.

-- Bucket, any person that spends 10k on a bicycle is guaranteed to be a $@I almost started to like you. -bhog

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Don

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#13 posted 115 days ago

I’ve just sent an email to the client to try to get a few more details out of him. Turns out they are designers and builders of outdoor kitchens. The kitchen hasn’t been built yet so details are few.

-- -- Don in Ottawa, http://www.donebydon.ca

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#14 posted 115 days ago

I don’t know about toxic but I think in rare occasions it’s sawdust affects some folks but so does other woods like cedar,alder, walnut and other woods .I’ve seen a number of folks that make spoons and bowls out of ipe.

http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/ipe/

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#15 posted 115 days ago

Don, this chart may be of some use to you.

-- Art

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