LumberJocks

Good glues with longer open times?

  • Advertise with us

« back to Designing Woodworking Projects forum

Forum topic by botanist posted 04-25-2014 03:36 PM 667 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View botanist's profile

botanist

151 posts in 2263 days


04-25-2014 03:36 PM

I’m building a bed that has about 15 slats each on the headboard and foot board and I’m concerned about the open working time for the glue that I’ll use on the project. I’ve heard good things about liquid hide glue (like the Titebond LHG or Old Brown Glue), but what about wood weld or Titebond III? I know that the West epoxy system is pretty good, but it’s out of my price range.


12 replies so far

View botanist's profile

botanist

151 posts in 2263 days


#1 posted 04-25-2014 03:41 PM

I should specify that I’m not talking about the JB wood weld product, I’m talking about the DAP woodweld plastic resin glue.

View shipwright's profile

shipwright

5232 posts in 1522 days


#2 posted 04-25-2014 04:08 PM

I would use OBG.
The difference is that once you do get it all glued up and find a little oops somewhere, it is reversible and you would be able to make the adjustment. Reversibility is one of the big advantages to hide glues.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fiberglass trees. http://prmdesigns.com/

View rustfever's profile

rustfever

637 posts in 2035 days


#3 posted 04-25-2014 04:09 PM

Get a friend…Work faster with Titebond.

-- Rustfever, Central California

View Fred Hargis's profile

Fred Hargis

1985 posts in 1218 days


#4 posted 04-25-2014 04:37 PM

If the slats are trapped, don’t bother to glue them. That also saves you from dealing with any squeeze out. That said, Old Brown Glue is quite good…..the Titebond liquid hide glue may be just as good (and it’s a lot cheaper). BTW, if you choose not to glue and have a little rattle in them, a pin nail in the backside will solve that.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

View pmayer's profile

pmayer

606 posts in 1790 days


#5 posted 04-25-2014 04:42 PM

Do a couple dry runs and get your steps down, then you should have no problem doing this glue-up with Tightbond 3. Also, as RF said, have a friend help to hedge your bet.

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

View John Stegall's profile

John Stegall

421 posts in 2241 days


#6 posted 04-25-2014 04:46 PM

I love OBG but ran out and needed something quick. Saw TB liquid hide and thought it would work fine, just happened to notice the expiration date on the bottle, last May. I decided quick was not that important.

-- jstegall

View Loren's profile

Loren

7809 posts in 2372 days


#7 posted 04-25-2014 04:47 PM

I use Titebond 2 Extend as my general shop glue. It has a
good working time window for furniture assembly.

Fred’s comments on not gluing slats are spot-on. If they
have shoulders, I’d want to glue them personally. The
fit may be a bit uneven so a glue that fills gaps might
be considered.

Pre-finishing the parts avoids the awkwardness of getting
into all those corners and also prevent glue squeeze out
from making trouble.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

View NiteWalker's profile

NiteWalker

2710 posts in 1301 days


#8 posted 04-25-2014 05:45 PM

+1 on titebond II extend, though I use TBI Extend as it has a bit higher heat resistance. I’ll probably be switching to TBII extend as I have some projects coming up that might be subjected to moisture.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

View MarkTheFiddler's profile

MarkTheFiddler

1852 posts in 913 days


#9 posted 04-26-2014 03:07 AM

My personal go to is Tightbond III. It has a really long set time. The only thing is, when it’s dry, it’s bonded. It will not come apart. If you need flexibility – go with the hide glue. I really should switch over myself.

-- Thanks for all the lessons!

View lepelerin's profile

lepelerin

330 posts in 1049 days


#10 posted 04-26-2014 03:23 AM

I do use OBG for indoor furniture. I like the long open time and reversibility. I never had to “reverse” my glue up, but it’s always good to know you can do it if …
I do have a bottle of cabinet maker glue from LeeValley, long open time, very nice glue.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=45104&cat=1,110,42965,45104

View NiteWalker's profile

NiteWalker

2710 posts in 1301 days


#11 posted 04-26-2014 03:41 AM

The lee valley glue is nice; I almost made it my primary, but it has little moisture resistance, so it’s not much different then TBI Extend.

Good stuff though.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

View Jim Finn's profile

Jim Finn

1733 posts in 1646 days


#12 posted 04-26-2014 01:59 PM

Another plus with Titebond liquid hide glue is that a slight amount of squeese out will not effect your finish like other glues will. I find that finish will attach to it and it virtualy “dissapears”

-- In God We Trust

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

GardenTenders.com :: gardening showcase