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botanist

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04-25-2014 03:36 PM

I’m building a bed that has about 15 slats each on the headboard and foot board and I’m concerned about the open working time for the glue that I’ll use on the project. I’ve heard good things about liquid hide glue (like the Titebond LHG or Old Brown Glue), but what about wood weld or Titebond III? I know that the West epoxy system is pretty good, but it’s out of my price range.


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#1 posted 04-25-2014 03:41 PM

I should specify that I’m not talking about the JB wood weld product, I’m talking about the DAP woodweld plastic resin glue.

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#2 posted 04-25-2014 04:08 PM

I would use OBG.
The difference is that once you do get it all glued up and find a little oops somewhere, it is reversible and you would be able to make the adjustment. Reversibility is one of the big advantages to hide glues.

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#3 posted 04-25-2014 04:09 PM

Get a friend…Work faster with Titebond.

-- Rustfever, Central California

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#4 posted 04-25-2014 04:37 PM

If the slats are trapped, don’t bother to glue them. That also saves you from dealing with any squeeze out. That said, Old Brown Glue is quite good…..the Titebond liquid hide glue may be just as good (and it’s a lot cheaper). BTW, if you choose not to glue and have a little rattle in them, a pin nail in the backside will solve that.

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#5 posted 04-25-2014 04:42 PM

Do a couple dry runs and get your steps down, then you should have no problem doing this glue-up with Tightbond 3. Also, as RF said, have a friend help to hedge your bet.

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#6 posted 04-25-2014 04:46 PM

I love OBG but ran out and needed something quick. Saw TB liquid hide and thought it would work fine, just happened to notice the expiration date on the bottle, last May. I decided quick was not that important.

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Loren

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#7 posted 04-25-2014 04:47 PM

I use Titebond 2 Extend as my general shop glue. It has a
good working time window for furniture assembly.

Fred’s comments on not gluing slats are spot-on. If they
have shoulders, I’d want to glue them personally. The
fit may be a bit uneven so a glue that fills gaps might
be considered.

Pre-finishing the parts avoids the awkwardness of getting
into all those corners and also prevent glue squeeze out
from making trouble.

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#8 posted 04-25-2014 05:45 PM

+1 on titebond II extend, though I use TBI Extend as it has a bit higher heat resistance. I’ll probably be switching to TBII extend as I have some projects coming up that might be subjected to moisture.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#9 posted 04-26-2014 03:07 AM

My personal go to is Tightbond III. It has a really long set time. The only thing is, when it’s dry, it’s bonded. It will not come apart. If you need flexibility – go with the hide glue. I really should switch over myself.

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#10 posted 04-26-2014 03:23 AM

I do use OBG for indoor furniture. I like the long open time and reversibility. I never had to “reverse” my glue up, but it’s always good to know you can do it if …
I do have a bottle of cabinet maker glue from LeeValley, long open time, very nice glue.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=45104&cat=1,110,42965,45104

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NiteWalker

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#11 posted 04-26-2014 03:41 AM

The lee valley glue is nice; I almost made it my primary, but it has little moisture resistance, so it’s not much different then TBI Extend.

Good stuff though.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#12 posted 04-26-2014 01:59 PM

Another plus with Titebond liquid hide glue is that a slight amount of squeese out will not effect your finish like other glues will. I find that finish will attach to it and it virtualy “dissapears”

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