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04-25-2014 01:06 AM

Ok need some help deciding which hand plane to keep. Have two number 7 hand planes have record that is in great shape Japanning is all there doesn’t need any work sharpened blade and took some nice shavings just need a little tuning.Now the Bailey is another story needs a complete over hall japanning is 50% gone sole needs to be flattened blade needs to be sharpened . The Bailey has patent date of march 25/02 and aug 19/02 . Thinking about getting rid of one of this planes just want some feed back or opinions on what to do. I’am not a collector just need a good user plane. Thanks Rob

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#1 posted 04-25-2014 01:10 AM

Fix up the bailey, and keep both. That is unless you need the money.

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#2 posted 04-25-2014 01:12 AM

From a user perspective, I don’t think it matters if you like doing the restoration work.

Having 2 isn’t a bad thing either. One sharpened with a camber, one without.

-- - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#3 posted 04-25-2014 01:52 AM

Also you can back bevel one when you need to work highly figured wood, to increase the blade angle.
Having 2 allows you to keep that, and not have to eat up a lot of blade getting rid of the back bevel.
On a #7 I would only camber the very edges., never more.

-- Jeff NJ

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#4 posted 04-25-2014 02:34 AM

Your post says that you are not a collector and simply want a good user

No one is in as good a position as are you to decide which is the better user.

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#5 posted 04-25-2014 07:42 AM

Well I need a good #7… So if you decide to sell one, shoot me a PM!

-- Dan :: Minnesota

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#6 posted 04-25-2014 01:20 PM

If you really can’t decide, fix up the Bailey and use it for a while then decide. You don’t really need two #7’s, as you can buy after market irons and have some w/ back bevels, camber, etc. In my shop space is a valuable commodity, so I wouldn’t have duplicate planes, your situation may be different.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#7 posted 04-26-2014 09:40 AM

Thanks for the comments and advice guys guess I will hang to them both for now until I decide what to do .

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#8 posted 04-26-2014 01:45 PM

I’ve seen disproportionately more Records with ugly welds or brazing from mouth to cheek than Stanleys. I believe the Records typically were cast from an inferior grade of iron. Just my opinion. I have no opinion over which really is the better user, I like ‘em both, otherwise.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#9 posted 04-26-2014 05:27 PM

When faced with similar decisions, I’ve usually sold the one that would fetch the highest price….likely the Bailey in this case. Whether or not one is better than the other is almost irrelevant….Bailey’s just tend to sell for more. With that said, and having done it a few times, I’ve actually come to prefer the Records over the Baileys….could just be a color thing!

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#10 posted 04-26-2014 10:45 PM

I found a Bailey #6 at a garage sale for $10 in excellent condition. I’m really not a plane-kind-of-guy, so it sits in my shop, surrounded by less esoteric tools. It has a nice patina.

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#11 posted 04-29-2014 03:30 PM

poopiekat record number 7 I have is in grat shape along with other records I own . knotscott guess I have been buying lot of record planes also have the number 7 also number 4,5,and two block plane low angle and reg angle I bought the bailey from friend who saw it at a flea market thought it was a number 6 at the time did not haveone So don’t need the number 7 think I am going to give it to a friend .

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#12 posted 04-29-2014 03:37 PM

I must confess that I have a good many planes. I like to buy them occasionally but just can’t seem to part with them. I’d keep ‘em both.

helluvawreck aka Charles

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#13 posted 04-29-2014 03:37 PM

I would think the #7 would sell for $50-$75 on eBay as is… Depends on if you want to spend the time to restore it or not.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#14 posted 04-29-2014 03:52 PM

Helluvawreck I understand same problem have had this plane for over a year seating in the shop.Wayne paid only 35 dollars for it that’s why thinking about giving it to a friend . Money is kinda tight for him right now new baby . Think he would appreciate it

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#15 posted 04-29-2014 04:55 PM

@robdem ”think I am going to give it to a friend.”

Want to be friends?

-- Dan :: Minnesota

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