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Forum topic by C_PLUS_Woodworker posted 04-21-2014 05:22 AM 991 views 0 times favorited 19 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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04-21-2014 05:22 AM

Makes perfect sense.

Now I know the table tilts…..............not the blade…..........very interesting,

No idea as to who manufactured this saw or how old it is.

No idea as to if these were easy-to-use saws

No idea why the tilting table was a “good thing”.

No idea as to the type of work a Tilting Arbor Saw was designed for.

http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=1104692

I also think Bert should buy these two pieces of equipment and make them new again:

http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=1104703

http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/view?auc=1104716

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#1 posted 04-21-2014 06:13 AM

Of course, that one of those fancy table saws which you don’t have to tilt the table.

....or the floor.

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#2 posted 04-21-2014 06:54 AM

http://m.publicsurplus.com/sms/auction/picviewerTop?auc=1104692&from=view

Looks like a 14-16” saw.

Looks kind of like a MOAK.

You’re welcome.

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#3 posted 04-21-2014 07:26 AM

Loren

Well, thank you

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#4 posted 04-21-2014 10:24 AM

Old saws that ran on jackshafts initialy didnt tilt then some one got the idea to cut bevels and they tilted the table. as few as 30 years ago I knew of a company that still had some of these in play with a dedicated motor. they also had some industrial deltas. For set ups on the work sheets they would refer to “tilt table” or “tilt arbor” saw.

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#5 posted 04-21-2014 10:28 AM

Thank you Bruce but boring, I am already, you know me or ask my wife.
No need for more boredom.

All saws today are “tilting arbor” (of course someone will prover me wrong)
The one in the ad is very well priced. It is some kind of Unisaw. It looks looks like it is in pretty good condition
I am almost tempted but I really do not want or need on more table saw.

-- Bert

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#6 posted 04-21-2014 11:40 AM

I have a couple of old Sears saws on the shelf that have tilt tables, a ‘Dunlap’ and ‘Companion.’ To lower the blade you also raise the table. Cheaper way to make a little saw.

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#7 posted 04-21-2014 11:45 AM

C Plus, tilting arbor saws tilt the blade and arbor not the table. as Bert says almost all if not all table saws today are tilting arbor saws. The are much safer than a tilting table saw.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#8 posted 04-21-2014 02:33 PM

It’s a Delta/Rockwell model #34-395 which is a very solid 14” cabinet saw and the big brother to a Unisaw.

Cheers,
Brad

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#9 posted 04-21-2014 03:04 PM

Of course you know that ShopSmith is still a tilting table style saw.
It is a bit of a pita but I wouldn’t consider it unsafe by any means.

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#10 posted 04-21-2014 03:52 PM

These DR 12”-14” saws are very common in my area, used in multiple military and other Gov sites. And usually sell at very reasonable prices.
They weigh around 950lbs, but actually easy to move by pulling the table and motor. The motors are usually 5 or 7.5 hp 3 phase.
The Autogen phase converters that Grizzly sells will run them nicely with no problems.
The table with wings is 48” across, with a 38” depth giving around 8” more room to the blade up front then a 10” saw.
A nice feature is the threaded part of the arbor is removable, making any blade hole size from 5/8” to 1 1/4” usable, spare arbors can be purchased from Grizzly, as it was used on their G5959 saws.
The saw will take a 14” blade, but it will not fully retract it, leaving 1” protruding when the elevation wheel is moved to the lowest position. A 14” blade will produce a 5” depth of cut.
The very last of these saws used a micro groove belt, most will have 4 v belts. When adjusted correctly the saw will run smooth enough to stand a dime on the table.
Nice arbor bearing design using a double row bearing at the blade end secured with a nut, and a single row bearing at the other end also secured with a nut. This arrangement allows for better heat expansion, and follows better machine tool design.
There is ample room in the cabinet for ease of any maintenance that is seldom needed.
Not intended for the hobbyist, an industrial grade machine with due caution can be used as such however.

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#11 posted 04-21-2014 04:00 PM

All of the above for $281.00.
Not bad at all.

I think that Bruce should buy it.

-- Bert

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#12 posted 04-21-2014 06:10 PM

There are always several of you usually a different bunch of guys) with great knowledge and experience as to EVERY topic or tool discussed on here,.

Sincerely, the wealth of knowledge accumulated by, or with, or whatever Lumberjocks is….....that wealth of accumulation of knowledge is staggering.

Never fails to surprise and please me.

I like being with smart people whom I respect.

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#13 posted 04-21-2014 08:13 PM

Here’s a pic of a tilting table saw…the arbor does not tilt.

Tilt-top saws were common on the pages of 1930’s-1940’s Popular Mechanics magazines. This might explain why Rockwell was compelled to identify the high-end saw in the original post as a “Tilting Arbor’ saw, since both were eminent on the market at one time. (from Google Images)

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#14 posted 04-21-2014 08:16 PM

OK, what were/are perceived benefits gained from a true tilting table saw ??

Anybody??

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#15 posted 04-21-2014 08:25 PM

One place my Daughter had rented one year, in the Garage, there was a tilting table saw, with a 10” blade, no less. The saw was bolted to a 2x pine board. Top may have been 18” x 18” square. A v belt ran back to a 110v motor, also bolted to the board. Never did find the miter gauge, “Fence” was there, allright, but I doubt if it could have been usable. Name plate did say “Sears” on it , though…..

Left that thing, motor and all when she moved back out… except for the saw blades. needed some “beaters” for the barn wood i worked on….

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