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garlandkr

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04-17-2014 05:26 PM

There could be worse problems to have, unfortunately this one is weighing on my mind heavily. After a lot of coin flipping and user reviews I decided to go with the Grizzly G0656X 8” Spiral Head Cutter. After calling Grizzly I found out they’re not getting a new shipment until August. Problem is I have money now that I won’t have then and they charge you when it ships.

Basically I need to get one today!

One option is to get the G0656 and also get the spiral cutter separately, almost the same price but it is a little more. I just don’t want the headache of changing them out, but it would leave me with two sets of heads and blades.

The other option is to keep looking and find an alternative. Any recommendations from those with experience on units which closely match this one but may be more expensive ($2-500)


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Marcus

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#1 posted 04-17-2014 05:56 PM

I bought the 490 and then swapped out the cutterhead later. It was maybe an hour of work. Maybe ask Grizzly if they’ll cut you a deal if they do that and include a new set of bearings ($25 or so).

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HorizontalMike

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#2 posted 04-17-2014 06:01 PM

Maybe the G0490X. Has longer table, 8” X 76-3/8”. I find that an advantage, even though I have an older G0593 with 75” table. Other than that, you should wait, IMO.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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garlandkr

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#3 posted 04-17-2014 06:51 PM

Ya, instead I’m going to get the 490X. The only difference I see is that the 490 is lever/parallelogram where the 656X is handwheel/dovetail. Is there any other difference I’m missing?

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#4 posted 04-17-2014 06:56 PM

parallelogram is supposedly better. who decided that, I dont know though! I think the belief is that you may end up w/ a little bit of sage eventually w/ the dovetail machines, but I know plenty of older machines that are perfectly level still. I find the setup to get everything perfectly level on the 490 to be very convenient/easy as well. I was thinking you wanted to go w/ the dovetail setup so I didnt suggest the 490.

It’s a good machine, I am very happy w/ mine.

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#5 posted 04-17-2014 06:57 PM

Once set, I would say probably NO. FWIW, I have only changed the cutting height on “dovetail ways” twice, and checking with a 5ft metal ruler things looked perfect with the infeed ~1/32” or less lower than the outfeed, but parallel. In other words changing cutting height should not change parallelism on either system.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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garlandkr

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#6 posted 04-17-2014 07:08 PM

Thanks for the words guys, I’m sold on the 490x.

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garlandkr

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#7 posted 04-17-2014 10:53 PM

WOW! Wen’t to get it and it went out of stock since I last looked, what are the odds!

Are Shop Foxes made from the same manufacturer, the Shop Fox W1741 looks identical to the Grizzly 490

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#8 posted 04-17-2014 11:56 PM

the 656 is 1 inch wider, the 490 is 8 inches on the nose where the 656 is 9 inches wide thats the difference that 1 inch extra is nice to have if you want to plane a board thats a little over 8 wide you basically have to rip your boards at 7 3/4 or less to fit the 490

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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bowedcurly

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#9 posted 04-18-2014 12:00 AM

if you live close to Lexington ky some guy on Craigslist has a shop fox 8in Para for like 800

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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garlandkr

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#10 posted 04-18-2014 12:16 AM

about 12hrs! ;P

I did like that extra inch on the table, I’m sure it comes in handy when you are actually wanting 8” boards! :)

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#11 posted 04-18-2014 12:46 AM

I ordered something from Grizzly on Friday. Guy told me it was out of stock until July, but charged me anyway.

Called on Monday to see when I’d be getting a receipt emailed to me and the woman I spoke to said it shipped on Friday and sure enough it arrived at my office on Tuesday. 48 business hours after i’d ordered it it arrived.

Here’s to hoping you have the same issue with Grizzly that I did.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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HorizontalMike

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#12 posted 04-18-2014 02:12 AM

My G0593 8” has a 9-1/4” wide table and that extra width is nice. However with that said, I still have managed to joint 10” wide boards on my 8” jointer w/spiral cutterhead. The trick to doing so lies in rotating the board horizontally 180 after each pass, and yes you will need to remove the guard(at your own risk). Getting the second edge is a no brainer so I won’t go into that here.

Since I only slice 1/64—1/32” per pass, I usually have NO rip out associated with going against the grain. OK, after several rotating passes I have a flat board with the sole exception being a 2” wide less than 1/32” high ridge. I then take the board to my WB, strap it down and then apply a light application from one of my handplanes to remove the ridge. Any size from #4, #5, #6, or #8 will do. Just make sure it is set for the tightest/thinnest shavings and take angled passes. A #4 usually works best at this stage, IMO.

After that, I am off to the planer with it and I’m done.

...Just a suggestion for those willing to assume the risk. ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#13 posted 04-18-2014 02:20 AM

Here’s a helpful link for jointing wide boards….the tip is about 4 (+/-) minutes into the video….

http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/videos/milling-wide-boards/

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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garlandkr

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#14 posted 04-18-2014 05:21 PM

Ended up ordering the G0656P figured I’ll get the spiral cutters as an upgrade in the future.

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#15 posted 04-18-2014 09:19 PM

That sounds like a winner! Congratulations!

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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