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Birds-Mouth Bits to make staved cylinders

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propcarver

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316 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: question joining router

Has anyone used these Birds-Mouth Bits to make staved cylinders?

http://www.amazon.com/Woodline-WL-2045-3-Piece-2-Inch-Birds-Mouth/dp/B000JEU7VY/

http://www.woodline.com/p-1754-3-piece-12-shank-birds-mouth-bit-set-contents-and-specifications.aspx

http://www.holbren.com/home.php?cat=196

I want to make a few kaleidoscopes and these look like they would simplify the process. In the past I have used the table saw but for the smaller cylinders and narrow stock I thought these might be safer as well.

An interesting side bar …. Looks like “free Shipping” from Amazon actually costs about 18 bucks if you compare the cost from Amazon Vs Woodline.

Regards,

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kshipp

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316 days ago

Here is the corrected link for Amazon.

Amazon

I didn’t know these bits existed so I haven’t ever used them but they are interesting to me.

-- Kyle Shipp, http://battleshipp.blogspot.com

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DaveR

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316 days ago

I haven’t used the bits even for narrower cylinders but I’ve heard some folks like them. The last thing I made using the birdsmouth method was a gaff for the sailboat I built a few years ago. It wasmaybe 1 1/2” in diameter finished. I ended up cutting the V-groove with a V-groove router bit in the table. It worked fine but I was only making an 8-stave spar. I suppose you’ll want more than eight staves for your kaleidoscopes?

I made a calculator for determining stave size based on finished diameter and desired wall thickness. It only works for eight staves but if you want it, I think I can dredge it up. It runs in Excel.

Dave

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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propcarver

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316 days ago

Thanks Kyle.

I corrected the link. Looks like Amazon moves stuff around.

Hi Dave,

I appreciate the offer but I don’t have Excel, or any other spreadsheet, on my system.

I was able to find quite a bit of info and an online calculator for masts and spars. The math is interesting. It is located here if you would like to take a look.

I plan to use staved cylinders in combination with segmented sections. They should look good once I get them done. I’ll probably vary the count in each section based more on appearance then function.

Thanks Again,

Bill

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DaveR

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316 days ago

Hi Bill,

Yep, as a sometimes boatbuilder, I’m very familiar with Duckworks.

I think you should document the construction of these, here on LJ.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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propcarver

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316 days ago

Hi Dave,

I could give that a try but I’m not sure if there would be enough interest.

I’ll add to this post as I go along and we’ll see how it goes.

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DaveR

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316 days ago

Oh sure. There’d be enough interest. Post it and they will come.

-- Until you spread your wings, you'll have no idea how far you can walk.

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Douglas Bordner

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316 days ago

I have one of Eagle America’s bird’s mouth bits. Works like a champ.

-- "Bordnerizing" perfectly good lumber for over a decade.

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Mark Shymanski

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316 days ago

The posting the process would be of interest to me, I’d like to see how these are made….looking forward to the blog!

-- ...it's rennovation time!!!

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