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04-14-2014 04:23 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question traditional milling refurbishing sharpening plane

I cant seem to find any information on this plane, i have never restored a plane before and i’d love everyones input on the topic.


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#1 posted 04-14-2014 04:50 AM

That’s a good little plane. It was my first decent quality plane. Just flatten the sole (if it needs it), sharpen the blade and away you go. I have found I do like stanleys a little bit better, but millers falls still make pretty good users as long as you can sharpen.

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#2 posted 04-14-2014 11:28 AM

Might be a Mohawk-Shelbourne? Frog looks like a Union one, though. Maybe a Millers Falls iron on a Union No. 5?

Still a decent plane, and the iron is quite good.

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#3 posted 04-14-2014 02:37 PM

Definitely not a Miller’s Falls. Shape of the body and lever cap, plus the lettering shape on the castings says Stanley made.

My best guess would be a Stanley Defiance that someone put a Miller’s Falls iron on. It should clean up into a decent user.

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#4 posted 04-14-2014 02:53 PM

That is the nicest script I’ve ever seen someone scribe their name in a tool.

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#5 posted 04-14-2014 11:25 PM

what should i use to restore this beauty?

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#6 posted 04-14-2014 11:43 PM

Read this and it will give you a good place to start.

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#7 posted 04-14-2014 11:46 PM

Here is what I do. Take it completely apart and soak the metal parts in Evapo Rust. The stuff is non toxic and will gently get rid of the rust and clean the paint with out hurting it. Make sure all of the parts are completely submerged and not touching or else you will get a permanent black line on the metal. You can get Evapo Rust at most automotive stores.

Once it comes out of the solution, you can buff the exposed metal parts by hand to get the oxidation off. I use a soft wire brush. Home Depot sells them in a pack. The brush is the size of a tooth brush. I follow that with 0000 steel wool or 400 grit wet/dry sand paper depending on how bad it still looks. Don’t use the wire brush on the blade or chip breaker – use steel wool instead.

The wood can be cleaned with a wood cleaner (look for one by the floor polish companies.) Polish the brass and you’re done.

Here is a picture of a plane done in this way. I’ve done many of them. Hope this helps.

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#8 posted 04-14-2014 11:55 PM

alright. here we go! thank you for your help everyone! if you have any more suggestions or tips feel free to comment!

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#9 posted 04-15-2014 12:22 AM

PS – It looks like your plane was made right around WWII. The bed on the frog looks like a newer Stanley, but the key hole shape in the lever cap is old school The planes after WWII used a kidney bean shaped hole. It also has the smaller brass adjustment knob in the back. They became bigger as time went on.

The cast iron was much better back then. They took the time to let it slowly cool before WWII. This helped keep the sole of the plane flat over the years. After WWII they cranked them out as fast as they could, not letting the cast iron cool properly. Many of those post WWII planes have a problem with the soles warping over time.

Looks like someone swapped out the front knob at some point and took off the brass screws that hold the handle in place.

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#10 posted 04-16-2014 12:35 AM

what do you all think this plane could sell for? i don’t want to sell it but i am curious

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#11 posted 04-16-2014 08:24 PM

Michael
I’m not sure if I can see right but, it looks like the plane may have been welded (fixed after a bad fall that broke it).
If this is the case, sorry to tell you, don’t bother to restore it and get what you can for it, scrap it, make a door stop, paper weight, any effort to restore it (unless you’re a machinist, which apparently, you’re not) will be futile.
For the future, look into YouTube videos, there are plenty restoration tips there, some are even GOOD.

-- A great woodworker is one who can make a masterpiece in someone else’s shop using someone else’s tools.

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#12 posted 04-16-2014 08:31 PM

Michael, It’s probably only worth about $20-25, max, in complete, cleaned-up and working condition. Not that it can’t be a good user, but #5’s are the most common plane size out there and there are a lot of them on the market at any time. A good condition Stanley Bailey, which is a more desirable line, will routinely sell for around $40. I see decent quality #5’s at auctions and sales frequently for $5-10.

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#13 posted 04-16-2014 09:13 PM

While the iron IS a Millers falls 2” iron ( and worth a bit on it’s own) the rest looks like it was by Union Tool Co. Had a #5A a while back

without the iron or the lever cap on board, you can see a few more details.

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