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04-12-2014 04:21 AM

Topic tags/keywords: hand tools galoots historical period unplugged human powered traditional

Hello,

I am wondering if anyone knows of a forum that is 100% hand tool only without exception or, if not, if anyone would be interested in one.

I am interested in this for a few reasons. One reason is that I have a disability that prevents me from using any type of power tool. Another reason is that I have a very passionate interest in the ways that things were done in the past and I would like to be a part of a community (presently existing or in need of being created) of people that share similar passions.

I am aware that there are many woodworkers who enjoy working with hand tools, but will rely on some modern electric/gas/battery powered tools in order to speed certain aspects of their projects along; either for productivity reasons or because they have become bored or disinterested in some of the hand tool techniques. My inquiry is not calling their reasons for this into question; I am simply wishing to discover if there are others who are interested in 100% hand tool use.

My inquiry also includes those who are only interested in historical/non-synthetic finishes, solvents and adhesives.

Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this community and I look forward to your comments and feedback

-- "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly." And so I shall leave this godless forum and not return again.


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#1 posted 04-12-2014 04:26 AM

There is sub forum and I think lumberjocks that focuses on hand tool use. A lot of people within lumberjocks feel strongly towards hand tools.

-- Never confuse mistakes with failure. Kevin

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#2 posted 04-12-2014 05:13 AM

I would love to see such a thing, but …

I have long since given up on the notion that such a thing can exist. Perhaps I am too cynical.
I got a lot of blowback when I tried to point out (hand tool area of a competing forum) that all these self-styled Neanders and galoots were anything but.

It was actually laughable to see threads in which they were extolling their hand tool skills (complete w/pictures) only to find that a) they had used a power planer before flattening with a hand plane, had used a table saw (but only to break down stock), had used a bandsaw to resaw, and a drill press to ensure that the holes were perpendicular!

Call me hard-core, but I find it absurd that these guys who want to build a Roubo or Nicholson bench upon which to do hand tool working, don’t even build their bench with hand tools.

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#3 posted 04-12-2014 05:54 AM

There has been a handtools only forum on the interweb x pushin 20 years now.

It is the oldtools list serve.

There are archives available too.

it evolved out of rec.woodworking from folks being tired of “which table saw to buy” questions.

You gotta post a bio to enter, but lurking is possible…Strictly text, no images, but links allowed.

Doc, you ain’t cynical, you just never entered the right search terms.

Eric in Cowtown

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#4 posted 04-12-2014 08:07 AM

I am familiar with forums and areas of forums that cater to hand tool use. The hand tool section here is very nice and I have enjoyed other places that focus on them as well. What I have not found yet are forums that are 100% exclusive to hand tool usage and historical finishes &c.

Eric, is the listserv place that you mentioned what I am describing, or is it just mostly hand tool usage?

Doc, if I get enough response, I will make sure that a forum like that happens. Maybe, after I get established here, I might be allowed to create a section that is 100% purist and be allowed to moderate it. If not, I would be willing to create a new forum elsewhere.

I would have no desire to detract from Lumberjocks whatsoever. If I created one elsewhere, I would probably make it a forum that would include numerous subjects (sewing, weaving, pottery, blacksmithing &c.) that would all be 100% traditional. “Modern” techniques and discussion of such would not be allowed, as there are numerous other forums for such things; such as LJ does so wonderfully with woodworking.

As I said in my original posting, my intention is not to cast aspersions on the characters of those who wish to incorporate the use of machinery, rather, I am simply seeking those who are seeking a community of purists.

-- "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly." And so I shall leave this godless forum and not return again.

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#5 posted 04-12-2014 12:33 PM

http://logancabinetshoppe.com/blog/

“Welcome to the Logan Cabinet Shoppe, located in Swedesboro, Logan Township, New Jersey! I have been designing and building hand crafted, solid wood furniture for over 20 years. My furniture is reminiscent of common 18th and 19th century American antiques, and is built to the highest standards using only tools and methods similar to those used by our colonial ancestors.”

Bob Rozaieski’s blog comes to mind. HTH

Enjoy the journey Joseph, it’s going to be a great one.

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#6 posted 04-12-2014 01:29 PM

Eric – I am, of course, well aware of the site you mention, but I talked to a few friends this morning and apparently am not alone in thinking that the site has been long abandoned
Much more importantly, however, it does not begin to approach what the OP has envisioned.

waho6o9 – no one’s saying that blogs of this nature don’t exist (Stephen Shepherd’s “Full Chisel Blog” and Adam Cherubini’s “Arts & Mysteries” are two of of the pures) – the post is about forums

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#7 posted 04-12-2014 07:10 PM

Although my original entry was an inquiry about purist forums and those who might be interested, I also welcome references to purist builders and suppliers. I am willing to contact them to see if they would be interested in joining such a forum.

As Doc said earlier:
”I would love to see such a thing, but … I have long since given up on the notion that such a thing can exist.”

I too have been of this opinion, but perhaps, if purists knew that such a section or complete forum existed, such a place may be embraced and frequented. In my experience, if one has interest in such purist endeavors, one must do a great deal of searching in order to find, ofttimes, obscure and unfrequented references.

I have reason to hope for a purist discussion spot. After making the original post, it took only an hour to see a response from someone who shares this interest. I do not know how long I would need to be a member of Lumberjocks before I could request moderating a new area, but I would welcome the opportunity.

-- "As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly." And so I shall leave this godless forum and not return again.

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#8 posted 04-12-2014 08:34 PM

Go to woodcentral.com

-- Clint Searl....Ya can no more do what ya don't know how than ya can git back from where ya ain't been

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#9 posted 04-12-2014 09:08 PM

Sawmill creek’s Neanderthal Haven

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#10 posted 04-12-2014 09:27 PM

Clint, bandit

Neither of those qualify – I frequent both, but they are hardly purist sites.
You don’t have to look long to find heated battles wherein those with Drill presses, bandsaws, etc fiercely defend hybrid ww’g. It gets really old, really fast.

Woodcentral had the most promise, since Stephen Shepherd is, (I think) a moderator there.
At any rate, he runs the Tuesday night chats.

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#11 posted 04-12-2014 09:36 PM

Wouldn’t it be erroneous to create an electronic, digital website for this? I mean, a truly unplugged community should only communicate via Postal mailings, smoke signals, or carrier pigeons. Using the latest web technology to spread the word in and of itself, would be an anomaly.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#12 posted 04-12-2014 10:13 PM

I would certainly be interested in a site like what you mention. I use hand tools exclusively, even though when I started out learning this craft I bought a lot of power tools , but they were quickly forsaken and pushed to the back of the shop where they still sit covered with tarps.

-- Richard, Hot Springs, Ar -- Galoot In Training

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#13 posted 04-12-2014 10:35 PM

poopiekat

I think you’re on the right track …

I envision a town crier reading the various postings from parchment scrolls
Meetings would obviously occur infrequently, but be held in the town square

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#14 posted 04-12-2014 10:39 PM

But what should we wear.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#15 posted 04-12-2014 10:44 PM

DocBailey: Those who ride their horse-drawn buckboard to the Town Square would be the object of scorn of those who walked, and those who walked barefoot would show contempt for those who were shod.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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