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04-10-2014 02:13 AM

Topic tags/keywords: router

I’m not yet posting this as a review, because I’m going to send this one back. After I work with it’s replacement for awhile, I might post a review.

I recently bought a 20+ year-old Porter-Cable Omnijig 24, a 24-inch dovetail jig. After struggling with my inexpensive little router, I decided on an upgrade. After some research, I settled on the Hitachi M12VC. I wanted the variable speed so I could use larger bits in the router table. I didn’t feel like I needed plunge capability at this time, so the Hitachi seemed like a good unit for the price. I had previously bought a recon Hitachi framing nailer, so felt pretty good about saving $27 by getting a recon unit from BigSkyTools.com.

The Router arrived today before lunch, so I checked it out at lunch time. Unfortunately, it’s defective.

I mounted the centering tool in the 1/4” collet, stood the router on it’s head and set up the dial indicator.
I placed a little splinter of cherry on the centering tool to mark my “zero”.

It’s 40 thousanths (of an inch) out! That’s more than 1/32”. That’s about a millimeter!

I’m editing : I forgot to note that I independently checked the centering tool and found that it’s runout was around 2 thousanths, so it’s definitely the motor shaft that is bent.

I’ve sent a message to BigSkyTools, and I’ll let y’all know how they respond.


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#1 posted 04-10-2014 02:21 AM

?

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#2 posted 04-10-2014 06:41 PM

How did you check runout of the centering tool? That router takes 1/2” bits also, no? If so, chuck the 1/2” end in the router and check again. The collet could be the culprit.

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#3 posted 04-10-2014 07:50 PM

MrRon,

To check the runout of the centering tool, I loosened the collet slightly, held the shaft and rotated the centering tool. The needle wagged about 2 thousanths.

Also, I removed the collet and checked the collet cup (which is permanently mounted). The runnout was there too.

I didn’t try mounting the 1/2” collet and flipping the centering tool because it’s pretty clear that it’s the shaft.

I’m guessing the original buyer of this thing chucked a bit up in it and dropped it, then returned it as defective. There are other cosmetic marks on it consistent with that theory. But, it’s just a guess.

It’s been more than 24 hours since I logged the problem and I have no reply from BigSkyTools.com.

-Paul (Ocelot)

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#4 posted 04-10-2014 08:24 PM

Yes they get dropped and then their finished ,as they become too costly to repair vibration would also be bad if it is the spindle which is bent you don’t say! if so then chuck it back at them and get them to chuck your money back to you.Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#5 posted 04-10-2014 08:30 PM

Sometimes I wonder if some retailers don’t just take something in on return then turn around and sell it as reconditioned without really checking anything?

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#6 posted 04-10-2014 08:42 PM

Why aren’t you checking run out on the shaft part a little further up.

-- Jeff NJ

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#7 posted 04-10-2014 09:11 PM

Jeff,

That’s a good question.

If the shaft is bent, the higher up I go, the more runout I should see. If I get the same runout farther away from the motor, I would suspect that something was mounted eccentricly rather than the shaft being bent. That would be a good test. I could even chuck a long drill bit and check the runout as close as possible to the collet, then as far as possible away from the collet to confirm bent shaft or eccentric mounting. I used the centering tool because it came with the router and should itself be straight in order to serve it’s intended function.

Whether the shaft is bent or the collet cup mounted eccentricly, I want to return it in either case.

-Paul

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#8 posted 04-11-2014 01:40 PM

Update : BigSkyTools sent me an FedEx return label, so I don’t have to pay return shipping. I’m not yet sure whether they intend to exchange it or refund me. They were showing ‘out of stock’ on this item yesterday, but ‘in stock’ at the moment.

-Paul

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#9 posted 04-11-2014 04:22 PM

I’ve bought recon tools from CPO with satisfactory results.

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#10 posted 04-11-2014 04:50 PM

MrRon,

Thanks for the recommendation. I bought a recon Hitiachi framing nailer a couple of years ago – probably from the same outfit operating under a different name “HitachiRecon”. It was perfectly fine. I never had a misfire from it. So, I’m hopeful I’ll get a good one eventually. I’m relieved that they don’t expect me to pay return shipping.

-Paul

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#11 posted 04-15-2014 09:52 PM

The defective one having been handed over to FedEx to ship (free) back to BigSky Friday afternoon, the replacement arrived today (Tuesday) before lunch. That’s pretty quick! I haven’t had time to do more than just glance at it. This one doesn’t have as many scratches and dings on it, so I’m hopeful that it will be perfectly functional. Probably won’t have time to check today but perhaps tomorrow.

-Ocelot

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#12 posted 04-15-2014 10:04 PM

Good luck with your new CPO router, I too have bought CPO tools both with and without success.

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#13 posted 04-18-2014 03:42 PM

I checked the runout on the replacement router and found it to be certainly within 5 thousanths and probably within 2. This one has a plastic piece which protrudes on the top of the motor which makes it difficult to stand on it’s head without wobbling – so it’s harder to check the runout the way I was doing it.

I took some test cuts and all was well so far. Haven’t had much time with it.

-Paul

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#14 posted 04-18-2014 05:50 PM

I wouldn’t worry about it; just use it and beat the hell out of it for during the return window. If it fails, return it and get a different brand.

FWIW, I’ve never once measured runout on any of my routers (8). I just use them, and if something’s wrong, I’ll know when routing or even when the router is on as there will likely be excessive vibration.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#15 posted 04-18-2014 05:58 PM

Nite,

The only reason I measured the runout (on the first one) was that after using the centering tool to center the baseplate, and tightening up the baseplate, I was unable to turn the centering tool in the hole.

-Paul

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