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Forum topic by StumpyNubs posted 04-08-2014 03:50 PM 3653 views 0 times favorited 60 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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StumpyNubs

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04-08-2014 03:50 PM

Most know that Martin Sojka was the guy who started Lumberjocks. He sold it to Escalate Media a couple of years back, and finally left completely a while ago. I thought he was gone for good, until an hour ago. That’s when I got a Facebook message from him telling me about a new website he’d created.

He said: “there was a bit of innovation lacking in LJ so I decided to come back under a new name”...

The new name is Woodworkingweb.com and it looks like it was JUST started because there are only a handful of members, a single posted project and no forum topics. I have no idea if it’s going to take off, but it clearly has some hints of Lumberjocks in the design.

I am not commenting for or against it, I just thought it was interesting. I am a big fan of Lumberjocks.com, but if someone wants to try and make something better, they are welcome to try, and I support any innovation that improves the woodworking world. I just think they have a tough road ahead of them. Lumberjocks is a great site, a big community, and there are a lot of very loyal members, me included.

What do you think about it? Can Martin build a legitimate competitor? He did do it once, can he do it again? Do any of you plan on keeping an eye on his new site to see what happens?

(THIS IS NOT posted in behalf of Martin, who I have not spoken with as of now. I simply got a message from him that I suspect he sent to all his Facebook contacts. Martin is just one of over a thousand people who follow my facebook page. I am not privy to his relationship with Lumberjocks and why he left, and this should not be seen as an endorsement of his new site.)

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com


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RockyTopScott

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#1 posted 04-08-2014 04:05 PM

Interesting, I see MsDebbie over there as well.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#2 posted 04-08-2014 04:12 PM

I won’t be leaving LJ but I wish them all the luck. I’m already a member of 4 woodworking forums, each with it’s own personality.

-- http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#3 posted 04-08-2014 04:13 PM

I have to say I am a loyal lumber jocks fan and have no intention on leaving or joining the competition. I think Martin will have some success with this, but it’s different this time. He didn’t have any one else to compete with when LBJ was created, now look how big it is today. Like you said Stumpy, I wish him well and hope he prospers, but I personal don’t think it will grow as big or as fast as LBJ. I try to keep up with the new and news of wood working for the most part, but in this case it’s like being married, I have the one I want and don’t need to look else where LOL. Just my opinion and $1.00 still wont get you a cup of coffee lol.
Todd Barrone “A wood worker”

-- "The Cedar King" https://www.facebook.com/BarroneContracting

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#4 posted 04-08-2014 04:14 PM

Interesting, just checked it out and loading faster than this site. Hope it doesn’t get loaded up with ads, adchoices is the best way to destroy an otherwise good site.

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#5 posted 04-08-2014 04:18 PM

When he started LJ’s he did have several competitors, the largest of which was Sawmill Creek. He defeated SMC by building a much more “open” site, fewer rules and even fewer power hungry moderators. But however you look at it, he DID overcome a lot of odds once. He might be able to do it again.

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com

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lateralus819

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#6 posted 04-08-2014 04:25 PM

I’d be curious to check it out. I switch from woodworkingtalk to LJ’S, and it’s heaps better. I quite prefer the layout here. Woodworking web comes off kind of like a “blog”.

-- Never confuse mistakes with failure. Kevin

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Sheila Landry (scrollgirl)

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#7 posted 04-08-2014 04:28 PM

I don’t see why it has to be a matter of “either” “or”.

I think the farther we can reach other woodworkers, the better it is for all of us and the woodworking industry in general. I have read comments from members who felt that perhaps LJ’s is getting ‘too big’ and may feel more comfortable in a more intimate group. I think it is strictly up to the individual and don’t see anything wrong with it at all.

The term “competition breeds excellence” comes to mind, although as I said – I don’t think it is a competition. Just another choice.

I am in support of anything that supports and expands woodworking. Good for him. :)

Sheila

-- Designer/Artist/Teacher. Owner of Sheila Landry Designs (http://www.sheilalandrydesigns.com) Scroll saw, wood working and painting patterns and surfaces. "Knowledge is Power"

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The Box Whisperer

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#8 posted 04-08-2014 04:47 PM

He can do his thing, and I wish him luck, Im with Sheila. Us Canadians just want to share. I may go check it out but LJs will always be my home.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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distrbd

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#9 posted 04-08-2014 04:48 PM

Sheila +1,Just tried to join to see if they let me see more of the site but didn’t make a difference,there’s only one project,no forums.still too early but more power to him,many members here are also members of other woodworking sites,it all comes down to where you feel most comfortable.

-- Ken from Ontario

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#10 posted 04-08-2014 05:02 PM

Being from the South, comfortable is very important so I think I will just hang with LJ’s. This is the only woodworking forum that I belong to and find it the easiest to maneuver through. Just my .02.

-- Matt, Mississippi

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Gene Howe

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#11 posted 04-08-2014 05:07 PM

Hey, it’s a big web out there. Room aplenty for a new site. I wish him well and will check in on his new venture.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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shampeon

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#12 posted 04-08-2014 05:15 PM

Something of a double bind here. The value of a forum is the community, but how do you attract enough members to have a critical mass to build that community?

More outlets for woodworking information are a good thing, so I hope Martin’s new venture is part of that, and that LJ’s management doesn’t disrupt the community and knowledge-base that’s been built here.

-- ian | "You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity."

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SPalm

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#13 posted 04-08-2014 05:26 PM

If you want to see how it will look with a bunch of users, blogs, projects, etc. – then go to one of its sister sites:

http://cakesdecor.com/

Same touch and feel,
Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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bigblockyeti

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#14 posted 04-08-2014 07:46 PM

I realize this post wasn’t specifically intended to promote Martin’s new venture, but how could it not. He realizes there are many people none too happy with the recent adjustment to the level of advertising and no doubt hopes to gain new members from those seeking a different avenue to ask for and offer advise to fellow woodworkers. It is highly probable that this OP will be responsible for the majority of the first 100 members that join WoodworkingWeb.

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fatandy2003

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#15 posted 04-08-2014 07:53 PM

Interesting. I wonder what “innovation was lacking” here? His new site does not appear to offer anything but a different design. Still the same headers, Daily Top 3, Favorites, etc… I guess you can link projects direct to pinterest and facebook? Not knocking it, I just don’t get on the internet enough to go to multiple websites offering the same information. But good luck to Martin. He built a great site once; I am sure he can do it again.

Cheers,

-- -- Andy, “Those who expect to reap the blessings of liberty must undergo the fatigues of supporting it” - Thomas Paine

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