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Forum topic by hobby1 posted 04-06-2014 05:10 PM 834 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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hobby1

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04-06-2014 05:10 PM

This is a post directed ONLY to those who are sincerely (in a mature manner) critical, against Scott Phillips woodworking, due to what they percieve as sloppy, rush in a hurry, hacker of wood and tools, ect…

I think you may find, he has redeemed himself with this build project.

I for one have never been critical about his woodworking, because I percieve he is above me in talent in this field,

but for those who in a sincere,

(mature way of being critical with grounds to be critical about, with truthful acusations, of there woodworking being superior to his woodworking, and they are not bashing his talents but are able to prove there talents to be above his talents, in a respectable way),

I would like to suggest to watch this episode, you may find, he has a different attitude towards his woodworking with this project, unlike what you may have thought about his woodworking from your past experiances of watching him work.

The name of the episode on his website:

season 21
Episode 2105: Philadelphia Ball and Claw Armchair

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DanielP

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#1 posted 04-06-2014 06:34 PM

hobby1 writes

“but for those who in a sincere,
(mature way of being critical with grounds to be critical about, with truthful acusations, of there woodworking being superior to his woodworking, and they are not bashing his talents but are able to prove there talents to be above his talents, in a respectable way),”

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pintodeluxe

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#2 posted 04-06-2014 06:34 PM

I say anyone who is bringing woodworking to the forefront with shows, magazines and books should be commended. Everyone has different tastes, if I don’t like a project that a host does, I will still learn some techniques along the way.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 04-06-2014 06:35 PM

Think I’ll move on…....

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jdmaher

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#4 posted 04-06-2014 06:38 PM

I have nothing against Scott. I’ve found much of value in many of his shows over what must be 20+ years. But I didn’t see much of value in that particular episode, which I watched just yesterday.

The subject matter is a very complex chair (far beyond my capabilities). So Scott presents a series of vignettes that depict the steps one might use to approach such a project. In each step, there is insufficient time to show the full activity – so he just provides a brief description of what you’d do and what kind of tools you’d use. I did not find it either helpful, or even very informative.

At the end of the episode, I literally said: “Yes, a chair has legs and a back and a seat. I knew that much before you started.”

I LIKE Scott Phillips’ American Woodworker, and I considered that one of the most useless episodes I’ve seen.

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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bandit571

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#5 posted 04-06-2014 06:43 PM

Well, I do watch the show, when I can get the PBS station to come in. More to get ideas about a project. Scott has his ways of jioning parts, I have mine. I will try to adapt my joinery to his projects.

Until like scott, I DO NOT have to put out a show, or even a video. My pace can be a might slower, too.

Lets see, Scott lives about 35 miles from my house…......

IF one could, take a lot at some of his early shows, BEFORE the new shop was built. I believe he worked out of an old shed, with a bank of windows over the bench. This was way before Kreg was a sponsor.

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mikema

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#6 posted 04-06-2014 06:59 PM

I also live near Scott as well, and have met him on many occasions. He is a great guy and an excellent woodworker. He does gloss over steps that the more accomplished woodworker would cringe about, especially when it comes to milling. His target audience isn’t the accomplished woodworker. Based on the demographics from his ratings it is geared more towards the very beginning woodworker or those who just want to see how its done. The past couple seasons he has started using hand tools and hand carving techniques, as a response to the success of Rough Cut.

Not mention, he does it all, with the exception of what you see his wife doing, where Rough Cut they have several people behind the scenes helping Tommy out.

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Grumpymike

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#7 posted 04-06-2014 07:29 PM

In Scott’s latest episode, he Quote, re-creates Unquote, an antique bottom for a shaker hutch top. This episode turned into a 30 minute infomercial for the Kreg pocket hole jig and the Odie’s Oil brand finishes.

Norm Abram “the power tool junkie” in his New Yankee Workshop recreated many pieces that were inspired by the Antiques in museums about the east coast. In his recreations he used the joinery similar to the original.

Are we comparing apples to apples? no we are not. Each and every craftsman including you and I have very different styles of work and workmanship. Norm is a master at his task where Scott takes the stance of the week end warrior. Thus showing us two very different styles and attitudes toward the beauty of the finished product.

Now we can add a plumb to the apples and oranges scenario and look at Tommy McDonald … again another style indeed.

I learn a bit from each one, and I always remember that they have something that I don’t have … A TV show.

Are they right or are they wrong? I say yes to both, and as a viewer that’s my right; as it is their right to be controversial in the content of their shows.

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Woodmaster1

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#8 posted 04-06-2014 07:34 PM

I met Scott and he said it took several hours to build the chair. He had 26 minutes to show how it was done. I think if he was able to show the whole process on several shows we find he is better than people give him credit.

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Rick M.

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#9 posted 04-06-2014 09:56 PM

I have nothing against Scott Phillips, he seems like a nice guy, but American Woodshop is the least entertaining and least informative woodworking show I’ve ever seen. There are many youtube woodworking channels that produce superior content and teach more in 6-10 minutes than you’ll find in a whole season of AW.

As for the show in question I might have watched it if the OP had bothered to give a direct link but I don’t like the show enough to bother googling it.

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Redoak49

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#10 posted 04-06-2014 10:24 PM

I think that it is a fine show and glad that there are woodworking shows to watch.

HOWEVER, his show is just not my cup of tea and at times strays way to far into being a commercial. In one show, he used about 10 times more Kreg screws than I would have used.

BUT good for him to have a woodworking show.

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bowedcurly

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#11 posted 04-07-2014 01:03 AM

He does advertise and push tools, finishes, and such but alot of time he has good tips, thats what I look for in all the shows. Since I got introduced to Utube I really don’t watch the shows and of course Lumberjocks has all the info I need, including alot of comments I really don’t care to read when someone is bashing or bein a smartarse!

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