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Forum topic by Purrmaster posted 03-31-2014 11:00 PM 1578 views 0 times favorited 41 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Purrmaster

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03-31-2014 11:00 PM

Topic tags/keywords: straight edge straightedge veritas lee valley

Hi all. I just got my 36” Veritas/Lee Valley straightedge today. After looking at the straight edge it looks like it’s bent slightly at one end. I checked it against the cast iron wings on my table saw. When I put the straightedge “wide side down” on the table it rocks noticeably.

But I think it’s straight on the thinner sides. I’m sure there’s proper terms that I don’t know.

Is a straightedge supposed to be flat on all four sides? Or just the thinner edges?

Thanks.


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#1 posted 03-31-2014 11:20 PM

I was confused by your description, so I looked up the Lee Valley Straight Edge, 38” Aluminum. If your tool is like the ones in this picture, I suggest you send it back. It should be straight without any bend, and set flat on your table saw.

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#2 posted 03-31-2014 11:21 PM

Boy, I would definitely be calling Lee Valley about this. They are really nice people and will give you an honest answer. Personally, I don’t know how you could use a straightedge that is not flat. If you think about the fact that you have to hold it down on a surface to make a line or a mark, rocking would be unacceptable, at least to me, but I’m not the straightedge expert.

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#3 posted 03-31-2014 11:45 PM

This is the one I snagged:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=56676&cat=1,240,45313,56676

To be more precise, the 36”.

I e-mailed the Veritas customer service address. I’m sure Lee Valley would exchange it for me if I asked. But I don’t want to be “that customer” who is nitpicky and expects unrealistic perfection.

If the thing isn’t meant to be perfectly flat on all 4 sides and is instead only meant to be flat on one or two sides then getting a replacement won’t make any difference. It’ll be the same thing.

I don’t think it was damaged during shipping. They packed things pretty well.

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#4 posted 04-01-2014 12:08 AM

I’ll guess that it’s likely meant to be straight on the narrow edges. If it is not straight on the narrows then I’d call them without hesitation.

I have 3 older Empire levels, a 2 ft. a 4 ft, and a 6 ft., aluminum with magnetic inlays on one side. Believe it or not, they’re pretty darn straight :o) Think if I were going to pay 80 sump’n $$ for a 3 ft long straight piece of steel or aluminum, I’d head to a machine shop and get a price on it.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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Purrmaster

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#5 posted 04-01-2014 01:26 AM

Thanks for the replies. I got the more expensive steel because I figured it would be highly resistant to bending. Thus the disappointment. Especially since the other Veritas stuff I’ve gotten has been darn near perfect.

On the other hand, it is a $100 tool and not a $1,000 tool. So I’d feel kind of bad about sending it back.

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#6 posted 04-01-2014 01:33 AM

Don’t feel bad at all; send it back. Lee valley is great with customer service.
You paid good money for it. It should be flat on all 4 sides, but the critical edges should be to their spec.

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#7 posted 04-01-2014 01:40 AM

Call Lee Valley, they will make it right. I order some bow clamps around Christmas and somehow the box was damaged and FedEx didn’t deliver and didn’t contact LV, I called Lee Valley to discuss, 15 minutes later got a call back saying we will deal with FedEx and are shipping new ones out.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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#8 posted 04-01-2014 01:44 AM

If you read the description it plainly states the the steel straight edges are machined to within .0015 on the two edges. The wide side as you call it is not considered an edge.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#9 posted 04-01-2014 01:52 AM

Call them, even those that is not considered an edge, it should not be out by much. If it is, it may not register correctly on your piece to be checked. Take a feeler gauge and find out how much it bows out, and where it is highest. Discuss this with them. It might be within tolerances, but it might not be.

-- Jeff NJ

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#10 posted 04-01-2014 01:55 AM

I’ll put it on my table saw and break out the feeler gauges and the flashlight. The only problem is I don’t have a single, unbroken surface that is 36 inches long. But I can get it most of the way there with the table saw.

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#11 posted 04-01-2014 01:56 AM

These are definitely NOT supposed to be flat on the wide faces; only the narrow faces are machined to be flat. The straight edge does not have enough beam strength to stay flat if it is projected off a table, for example, and will not be a reference surface/edge. If the narrow edges are flat against your table saw (assuming it is a flat reference), then this tool is machined properly and functioning as intended.

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#12 posted 04-01-2014 02:36 AM

If there’s a noticeable bow in the flat faces of the straight edge, it’s still not up to spec IMHO.

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#13 posted 04-01-2014 02:49 AM

I see it as this cost $90.00 so it best be straight to the specs, no bends…..call them and ask for a new one or get your $$ back

-- Measure "at least" twice and cut once

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#14 posted 04-01-2014 03:06 AM

I am sure that LV wants to hear from you. They do not want a dissatisfied customer or damaged tools floating around.

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#15 posted 04-01-2014 03:13 AM

You don’t want to be that guy, I’ll bet used car salesmen love you. Seriously for a C note you should expect serious quality especially for something as simple as a thin piece of steel. It’s not rude or picky to ask for what you paid for, a straight straight edge.

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