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Forum topic by NoLongerHere posted 03-19-2014 04:02 PM 1303 views 0 times favorited 41 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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NoLongerHere

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03-19-2014 04:02 PM

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what would it be like to build the perfect woodworking website?

if you started from scratch…....What would you name it?

WoodArt?..... WoodWorld? .....Artistry in Wood?

Woodworks?.... Woodcrafters?.... Big Burly men with Tools?....Ha!

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Maybe have “Friday night” guest appearances, like Mafe and his friend Shave! or even Charles Neil!

Where would you start?..... How much would it cost per year?

Is Bailey interested? they sure seem like they want to get involved.

Hey, Grampa could be the referee!...we all listen to him! Ha!

Moderators would be regulars and previous woodworking business owners like Jim and Tony S.
PMs would be used to “fix” things and threads will try and remain enjoyable to read – if that’s possible.

Simple flag rules…5 to 8 flags, it’s erased by the readers. Second offense – grounded for one month and put in penalty box of shame…..ha! jk.

24 – 48 hr. edit and delete. Author has the right to immediately erase offensive comments on their thread.

Would you consider joining a second level forum – like an exclusive commercial free club that would pay dues of around 59.00 a year?.... is that a good idea or even necessary?

What would you do different to make it better?

Have 4 – 8 regular contributors like FWW. Run slide show of LJ projects on top banner?

Add a woodworking/ artist writer’s corner where articles and poems can be reviewed… be a home for writers that want to use photos to tell a story… be a home for woodworking photographers.

How about a CNC corner?

Add more woodworking video clips, Have a Facebook style news feed….what else?

A nice introductory paragraph with links for newcomers including a U tube video of LJs past projects, news letter clips, familiar faces like Debbie and Brit the box maker, even a 5 second shot of a bailey table saw!... why not?
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Way too much coffee this morning…...

any thoughts?


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#1 posted 03-19-2014 04:31 PM

There is a program called PalTalk, not sure if they have a woodworking section there (haven’t been there in years) but it is a voice/video program where people can talk instead of type. They rooms have owners and moderators and everything is (was free). Not sure if a program like that would fit into what you are describing. Maybe a video conference- like in which a person can provide a live presentation while people could ask questions and interact live would work well.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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#2 posted 03-19-2014 04:50 PM

Here is my idea at this moment in time.

1. No under the surface member contact. Everything public.
2. All members must post projects to be active forum posters.
3. For each project posted by member that member be required to make at least 10 comments on different member projects.
4. eliminate buddy system.

just off top of my head may change mind in 10 minutes.

-- --- Dan

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NoLongerHere

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#3 posted 03-19-2014 05:09 PM

Jinx – last thing anyone wants is a live video of my mug. Maybe others might like that but that is what Skype is, isn’t it?

not much time for IM type conferences, I was thinking more of a regular woodworking U tube video of the day or week shared on the forum by the site instead of randomly posted by a reader. It would make it more interactive without time restraints of a planned live video and give us something to look at and discuss.

If you like your LJ, you can keep it…. but I think we want and deserve more.

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#4 posted 03-19-2014 05:17 PM

True, true… I was thinking something like, ask Charles Neil and he would pick a topic from the list of suggestions, come on interactive video (with skype you can have a few people and I think you have to pay for that service) and answer a question live while others could make live comments. Not sure if such thing is possible with video and it wouldn’t be feasible via only audio.

-- earthartandfoods.com

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#5 posted 03-19-2014 05:27 PM

Let me just say at the top, that I’ve visited about every woodworking site on the web, and I really like Lumberjocks for ease of navigation and for organization. When i visit another site and they just have a forum listed “projects,” that is not nearly as helpful as the LJ approach to projects. Same with reviews.

I don’t really understand “buddies” on LJ. I’ve had a handful of folks ask to be my buddies, but it wasn’t until months later that I realized I hadn’t made them my buddy. So I did so. Now what? What goes on with buddies or PMs that is problematic? I’ve had a few “off-line” interactions through PMs—seems handy to me.

I can see the projects requirement, but it took me a long time to feel confident enough to list a project. Seems to me that different folks bring different strengths. A beginner who isn’t an accomplished woodworker can review the new Delta table saw from their perspective and bring real value to many others. I was surprised to figure out that one person who posted 10+ times a day didn’t appear to be doing any active woodworking,but this was her place to interact with others. That didn’t work out so well.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#6 posted 03-19-2014 05:28 PM

I’d name it ”The Woodtinkerer”. I like to reserve the term “woodworker” for folks who get off on their bad selves. Like … fill in the blank.

The videos that I’m currently enjoying the most are those by Frank Howarth on YouTube. Frank has an amazing assortment of talents and just seems to make it up, and learn, as he goes.

-- John - Central Ohio - "too much is never enough"

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#7 posted 03-19-2014 05:46 PM

The Charles Neil end of it is already handled ,he has over 40 You tube videos not to mention his on line Mastering woodworking and on line finishing classes.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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#8 posted 03-19-2014 05:50 PM

A specific SawStop forum would be nice I suppose.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#9 posted 03-19-2014 06:02 PM

I appreciate the moderation on the site, now, but I think we should have two unmoderated forums: SawStop and Festool! There would be more blood than sticking your hand in a Ryobi jobsite saw. It could also be a revenue enhancer: one would have to pay a subscription to be able to view those forums.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#10 posted 03-19-2014 06:11 PM

Mark, it sounds like one set of rules instead of the ones here on LJs, meaning there will be those that chafe over whatever you create.

I have no idea what ill took place over contest threads lately (if anything), but there seems to be a huge deal over what may or may not be construed as a right of free speech here. And it’s brought out the crazies. I’ve been a regular advocate of the wide range of inputs here and will continue to be. If Escalatemedia wants to reign that in, so be it as it’s their membership total that’s at risk.

This is a good place to hang out. My avatar will never, ever be my photograph. If I want to block, I will. And if others don’t like the place, leave. I’ll stay or go at my own discretion as well.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#11 posted 03-19-2014 06:20 PM

One thing: whatever the gripes are, it is not an issue of free speech. People confuse that all the time. You have the right to say what you want and not have the gov’t censor you. I don’t have to listen to you or publish your thoughts. Or in this case, anyone can start their own website and say whatever they want. But if I run a website, I don’t have to publish anyone else’s thoughts. There are political websites, for example, that don’t let anyone comment on the site who don’t buy in to the basic philosophy of the website—their rationale is that the site is for the purpose of, in this case, conservatives discussing their strategy and approach, not for arguing with liberals about the basics. I’m not a conservative, so I can’t comment on that site. My free speech isn’t threatened bc I could start a website that mirrored my political philosophy and allow, or not allow, divergent viewpoints.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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NoLongerHere

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#12 posted 03-19-2014 06:54 PM

Charles – festool, saw stop, conservatives…..your on a roll! Ha!

But, that’s what we expect and that’s what we like about you… it’s you. No arguing that. We get along fine as long as you don’t call non SS owners “stupid and should be shot” again. Actually, that thread was the talk of the town and rather fun.

Now we just need HM to call it a “southern whitey” site and we’ll have a real party.

LJ is 4 years old….what will the next 4 years be like?

Who knows, If Obama gives the internet control away, we might be writing in mandarin or Russian! Ha!

Look, this is more about building the perfect website with features that go beyond what we have now.

I am here because it is the best site compared to others and I belong to all of them. I am here for the conversation and to learn.

You want to see boring? Go over to Knots forum on FWW and look at the number of comments on everyone’s projects…...0.
Look at the number of people that read your post….you can’t, there is no counter. Ask a question on the forum and see how many days, not hours it takes to get a reply. It’s an ugly, no frills ghost town.

Lumberjocks, bad name and all is the best thing out there. What is next?

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#13 posted 03-19-2014 07:00 PM

“stupid and should be shot”? Since I don’t own a SS, don’t think I phrased it quite that way . . .

BTW, to illustrate the difference in websites, go to Breitbart.com and watch the unmoderated bloodbath on every story, and then to redstate.com (the example above) where insiders discuss among themselves. Quite a difference. Of course, they’re both quite different in character from LJ where most are more interested in whether or not Japanese chisels are superior.

-- "Man is the only animal which devours his own, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." ~Thomas Jefferson

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#14 posted 03-19-2014 07:10 PM

I believe the ongoing posted projects makes this site different than any other site I’ve visited. It can and does bring in a different cross section of the population. People who may want to participate, yet are repulsed by the social herding that goes on beneath the surface of typical sites, might enjoy the exclusion of it.

I’ve seen sites ruined by this under the surface human herding thing. I wouldn’t want to see this site go that way.

-- --- Dan

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#15 posted 03-19-2014 07:13 PM

Dan, interesting topic. Is it human herding that I don’t gravitate towards cutting boards and turned pens? That I routinely visit forums on this site dedicated to the things I think about often?

What’s herding vs. common woodworking / tool / technique / interest, besides one having a negative connotation applied to it?

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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