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Forum topic by jtritz posted 03-18-2014 03:41 AM 1693 views 0 times favorited 53 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jtritz

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03-18-2014 03:41 AM

I posted last week on A 1997 Powermatic 66 that I picked up on Craigslist. I have decided it would be fun to chronicle the refurbishing journey a long the way. I am going to take before and after pictures of each step and also log man hours and material costs along the way. I am interested in seeing how many hours and dollars this ends up costing in the long run.

This will be my first refurbish of anything of this magnitude and it will hopefully be a fun and rewarding experience.
I know I will run into many problems, issues and questions along the way. I will be leaning heavily on you fellow LJ’s for advice and know how and based what I have read on here over the last several months I know you all will be a big help. Looking forward to the journey. Here are the first picks from the progress on the Table top.


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AandCstyle

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#1 posted 03-19-2014 12:55 AM

Wow! It looks like you have made a great start. I have this saw, 1999 vintage, and am totally satisfied with it. How could anybody let their saw get like this? It is a shame. Keep the pix coming.

-- Art

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#2 posted 03-19-2014 01:04 AM

The 1968 pm66 I use in the schools woodshop is in better shape than what you started with. I am sure when you are done it will be better than the shops pm 66. Great start, looking forward to the finished pics.

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toolie

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#3 posted 03-19-2014 01:17 AM

this series on refurbing a unisaw provides a lot of universally applicable tips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshGOUg0hG0

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#4 posted 03-19-2014 01:32 AM

Nice table saw.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#5 posted 03-19-2014 01:16 PM

What’s the next step, plug it in? Probably doesn’t need anything more than a lube job. Let us know how it runs.

-- Jim from Kansas

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#6 posted 03-23-2014 02:12 AM

Latest updates on the refurbish progress. I dismantled the entire saw and took all the guts out. I located a local guy who is going to sandblast the cabinet, extension rails, fence and fence guide for $50. I spent 4 hours sanding the fence guide on Friday and didnt even finish one side. I decided I dont want anymore of that challenge, so I think the $50 bucks will be well spent and a big time time saver. Attached are some pictures of the tear down.

Today I started working on the all the internal parts. I did not want to sand blast those. I got a few pieces done and have attached some before and after shots. As you can see, the saw wasnt very well cared for, but structurally everything is in real good shape so I an optimistic I can make a nice saw out of it. (assuming I can get it back together:) Let me know if you have any advice or suggestions.

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#7 posted 03-23-2014 08:12 PM

What a great project. I’m adding this thread to my watch list.

-- http://www.PictureTrail.com/gid6255915

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#8 posted 03-29-2014 04:06 AM

Just got the parts back from sandblasting. I did the rails, Fence Guide, Cabinet, fence and big center trunion. They came back really nice. Posting a couple of pictures.

My dilemma is how to paint it. I painted most of the guts (not the machined parts) with Rustolieum Hammered Antique silver. I am planning on Priming all large pieces with a good Primer (probably Rustolieum). Here is where I need help. Thinking about buying a spray gun, but I have zero experience with these and know nothing about them. Rockler has one on sale in their flyer for $119. Anybody familiar with this unit? is it decent? any recommendations? Can I use my Porter Cable 3 gallon 150 PSI compressor and just buy a gun or is it to much pressure. I am looking for any and all pointers or recommendations on the best way to finish this thing without spending a fortune. If I go the spray gun route I am looking at a epoxy/enamel paint from Sherwin Williams. Please let me know what you all would recommend. Thanks

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#9 posted 03-29-2014 04:13 AM

My 2 cheap endeavors into cheap spray guns to use with my compressor ended up in huge failures. if you go the route with your compressor don’t go cheap.

I have had no success with my compressor and spraying but I have not spent much. Others will give you better advice just don’t go with a cheap sprayer they aren’t worth it.

Paul

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#10 posted 03-29-2014 04:15 AM

btw awesome restoration so far!

Paul

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#11 posted 03-29-2014 12:16 PM

Impressive restoration. Keep the pics coming.

-- John

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#12 posted 03-29-2014 01:24 PM

I spay gun paint all of my restores. Your compressor will have trouble keeping up. I use a 20 gallon compressor and it does an ok job. You can buy a cheap spaygun called a critter that is supposed to work even on low capacity compressors. And definitely use a spaygun. You will need 8+ rattle cans at least and those add up.

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GT350

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#13 posted 03-29-2014 02:57 PM

Look up the cfm rating on your compressor and then the spray gun should come with a cfm rating on that also, so just make sure the compressor puts out more cubic feet per minute than is required by the spray gun. If the compressor doesn’t come with a regulator you can get a separate unit or even one that attaches right to the gun so you can adjust the pressure. You might think about a water separator also.
Mike

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#14 posted 03-29-2014 05:57 PM

for many years I have painted everything from trim to cars to cabinets with a $20 HF sprayer Usually when they are on sale for $10 I will pick up a couple of them. When they get messed up I throw them on a shelf for parts. I have never had any problems with them as long a the paint is thinned properly. I will say your compressor may be a problem for you. Personally I would invest in a new compressor before going with a dedicated sprayer system.

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#15 posted 03-30-2014 02:12 AM

Thanks for the nice comments and the advice guys. I decided to pony up and buy a nice somewhat reasonably priced HVLP gun at Woodcraft. Its an Earlex 5500 that was on sale. Although I really did not want to invest that much in a spray gun at this point, the combination of several upcoming projects and the salesmanship of the guy at Woodcraft, I succumbed. I know its an investment up front, but like all good tools, you eventually pay for them in time and less dollars invested in the alternatives (I have bought an awful lot of spray cans over the years!)

So, I bought some hard enamel paint recommended by Sherwin Williams. Thinned it out and went to work. The good news is the cardboard I was practicing on looked REALLY GOOD HA! the not so good news is I wasn’t quite as good on the cabinet. This new territory for me and its going to be a little bit of a learning curve. That being said, its really not bad, just not as good as I was hoping. The paint is fine, the Gun is great, my technique is just not up to speed yet. I went a little too heavy and have some runs to deal with, but I think I can do some sanding or steel wool to clean it up and with another couple of coats I am confident I can get it looking pretty good.

Thanks again for all the advice guys. I will post Pictures when I get it cleaned up a bit more

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