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03-17-2014 02:51 PM

Hi All,

Read a lot of reviews on this table saw and other than the recall issue there was nothing bad said, cabinet mounted trunion’s and other than non-magnetic jigs no one really said much bad about the granite top.

I am looking for peoples opinions of these now that they have had them awhile, how does the granite hold up? Any chips? Bad Scratches? Cracks? How has the saw held up in general.

Would also like to hear general thoughts on the saw and any upgrades that were needed, is there a riving knife for these?

Lastly, what would one of these be currently worth? I have read in several places that home depot blew them out for $299 at one point, that said these seem to be superior to the current r4512 model in that they have more substantial internals and don’t have the alignment issue, that I have read anyways.

I have an opportunity to purchase one brand new (mfg after recall) on pallet still with the LSA but it hard for me to place a value on this, seems to me value might be about that or more of a 4512 but then again I am just taking stabs… I have not seen a used one for sale to compare against. There is also a like new TS3650 for $295 but did not research that much yet as wanted opinions on the r4511 first and I have come up with some criteria for a saw which is cabinet mounted trunions and a riving knife are must haves.

Thanks all!

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI


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Paul Stoops

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#1 posted 03-17-2014 08:39 PM

Hi Tom,
I have a Ridgid R4511 which I like very much. Unfortunately, I haven’t used it a lot but I have been happy with its performance. That said, the granite top has held up well. I did have one small chip which I repaired by filling it with epoxy—easy fix. The granite top makes the saw very heavy and somewhat difficult to maneuver. The stock Herculift did work alright for raising the saw for moving, but it does let it down in an uncontrolled way.

With the stock Herculift mobile base, I felt the saw was somewhat unstable with such a small caster footprint and most of the weight in the granite top. So I did some extensive modifications which may be found here: http://lumberjocks.com/paulnwa/blog/27116 Of those modifications, the one that might be the most useful to you would be the enlarged footprint mobile base with larger (5” casters), which makes the saw much easier to move around.

In retrospect, I would have preferred a cast iron top for some of the reasons you specified. However, not having the rust problem is nice. The May 2014 issue of WOOD magazine has a review of 10” tablesaws which might be of interest to you, if you haven’t seen it. The recommended Grizzly G0715P at $795 has a lot going for it.

I don’t have a riving knife for my saw, but I have heard that they are available online or from Steel City. Perhaps another owner will respond with the particulars.

-- Paul, Auburn, WA

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#2 posted 03-17-2014 08:49 PM

Paul,

I read your series last night – Incredible job!!

I was about to pounce on the Grizzly when someone else had the same alignment issue as the Ridgid r4512… I think even though there are many happy users of the G0715p I personally will go with a beefier cabinet mounted trunions, just to many people having problems with the recent model table mounted hybrids.

Thanks for your input!

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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keninblaine

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#3 posted 03-17-2014 09:43 PM

From my recollection, the 4511 saws had a habit of throwing blades, so was discontinued.

-- Ken, Blaine Washington

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#4 posted 03-17-2014 09:54 PM

Thanks Ken,

The one for sale by me is new and was MFG’d 2 years after the recall, it addressed that issue.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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Paul Stoops

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#5 posted 03-17-2014 09:54 PM

Ken—
Wow! That’s one I never heard before (about any saw!). My guess that the reason HD quit selling them was the very high cost of shipping due to the ~450# weight.

-- Paul, Auburn, WA

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#6 posted 03-17-2014 09:59 PM

Paul,

There was a recall on the 4511 something to do with an issue when running dado blades…

https://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/t27600/

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#7 posted 03-17-2014 10:00 PM

”My guess that the reason HD quit selling them was the very high cost of shipping due to the ~450# weight.”

That was one speculation I had read too….combined with the high cost of their breakage due to double stacking them, even though they were clearly marked not to double stack. The brittle arbor problem only effected a handful of early run saws before they recalled/fixed them. I wish they’d handle the issue with the R4512 like they did with the R4511 and TS3650….it is indeed a safety issue.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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AUswimKC

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#8 posted 03-17-2014 10:50 PM

If the 4511 is under $600, you won’t find a better comparable saw on the market. I love mine. No issues except a very minor chip at the front of the miter slot. And some dings on the top from when a router flew out of my hands and bounced like a tennis ball while spinning a bit.

Add a $25 riving knife from searsparts and it can’t be beat. That said, I also have an incra miter gauge.

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Tom

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#9 posted 03-17-2014 11:17 PM

Thanks AU,

The r4511 is $400+ tax new and supposed to be eligible for the LSA. I have the Incra v27 miter and just ordered the 32” TS-LS package.

So far it looks like this will be my saw. The only close contender I had was the Steel City 35990C for about $500, also new…

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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SignWave

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#10 posted 03-17-2014 11:20 PM

I got my 4511 when they were closing them out at $299. It was a great bargain and a good saw.

The granite is a real blessing for my “workshop” which is a detached garage with no climate control. I don’t have to worry about rust, despite the widely varying heat/cold and humidity. I’ve had no problems with chips or scratches on the top.

I wasn’t crazy about the fence (it was just OK), so I got the Incra TS-LS which a whole different approach. I also have an Incra miter gauge. I made my own riving knife out of a scrap of sheet metal.

So, I did do a fair number of upgrades, but I never find myself wishing I had a better table saw itself.

-- Barry, http://BarrysWorkshop.com/

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NiteWalker

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#11 posted 03-17-2014 11:50 PM

You did good.
I would jump all over a 4511 given the chance.
The granite is definitely an advantage imho.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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#12 posted 03-18-2014 12:05 AM

I found an r4511 on Craigslist back in October of 2013. The owner’s father bought it but passed away shortly thereafter before uncrating it. The owner then put it in storage expecting to use it in time. A few years passed and his plans changed so he put it up for sale. I paid $200.00 for it and I don’t think I could have done any better for the money. The only problem was that one of the granite wings was cracked when I opened up the crate. I spent, I think, about $135.00 (ebay had just one for sale) for the replacement wing. All told, I’m happy with what I ended up getting. I’m even using a portion of the cracked wing as a base for lapping my chisels and plane irons. I agree with the comments above that the mobile base could stand some improvement. It took me two nights in the garage with the instructions just trying to figure out how to put that mobile base together. At 1 3/4 hp, though, you need to have a sharp saw blade if you need to cut through hardwood of any substantive thickness.

Overall, the granite is a great top, especially for an unheated garage where you can have big temperature swings and high humidity. The downside is the granite’s brittleness.

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bdresch

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#13 posted 03-18-2014 12:51 AM

I see you are located in WI. You might be buying from the same place I did. I bought mine from a Ridgid distributer in Pewaukee in February. One thing to note though, he told me the LSA would be good, but a call to Ridgid confirmed that the LSA is only for tools bought from Home Depot. I didn’t really mind, the 1 year warranty should be plenty to find any defects. Other than the 2 piece fence rail I love mine so far. I am in the process of replacing my front and rear rails with solid pieces of steel, I am hoping that will help my only compliant. The granite has been good so far, very slick with a coat of Johnsons Paste wax, and looks good too.

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#14 posted 03-18-2014 01:16 AM

Great stuff, unlike every other saw I have inquired about recently (and there have been many) there has yet to be 1 bad thing of significance said which is highly encouraging. I do worry about cracking (it’s not like you can weld it) but I will admit I have not seen a granite topped TS ever, but I have seen granite counters take some abuse and have never seen one so much as blink at knives, cans dropped on them etc…

Just a side note for anyone looking in the Milw – S.E. Wisc area someone posted a Unisaw on CL (Oshkosh) for $300 about 3 hours ago.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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SignWave

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#15 posted 03-18-2014 02:50 AM

I really think that the biggest risk to the granite top occurs during shipping.

BTW, the TS-LS is very nice to use. I’ve gotten spoiled to being able to make accurate, repeated cuts.

-- Barry, http://BarrysWorkshop.com/

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