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Joseph Jossem

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03-15-2014 07:02 PM

Not sure how it came to this point but i have noticed quality means nothing to some customers.I have seen lately some of the most half %^$ ill attempts sell for big bucks.And i mean built to fail in the future no pride or real craftsminship.I guess its all about sales and how much baloney you can come up with to make the product seem good.I have realized alot of the customers in that arena can waste money and dont have a clue to real quality.As long as the price is real high they think they are getting quality.

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#1 posted 03-15-2014 07:14 PM

There’s some truth to that in the way higher-end goods are
sometimes sold. Decorating trends often have a lot to do
with it.

You, or any of us, can figure out a way to get on that gravy
train. You don’t have to make bad stuff, just make the
sort of things the people with a lot of “dumb money” want.

I do not mean to imply that people are stupid because they
buy high-priced craft items, just that in that area of
purchasing the buying criteria is not always quality-oriented.
It may be “bling” oriented, for example.

From what I’ve observed, putting some flash in your
furniture projects is a way to sell them for more money –
inlays and things like that. High end guitars certainly
follow this principle. Collectors will pay a lot for a guitar
that is literally one of the most gorgeous examples
they have seen. Marquetry, carving and inlay often
play a roll.

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#2 posted 03-15-2014 07:38 PM

I think for many people, they have no idea how furniture is built or how anything is built, really. So they have no way to judge quality and wouldn’t recognize it if it slapped them on the head. It’s kind of like me when I buy a car, after taking the obligatory look under the hood seeing all that stuff that I have no idea what most of it is for, I start looking at things like cup holders and color. Look my cup fits in the cup holder, this must be a quality machine, yeah right.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#3 posted 03-15-2014 07:52 PM

There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man’s lawful prey.
– John Rustin

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#4 posted 03-15-2014 08:28 PM

Hey! I resemble that!
A year or so ago I sold dozens of cutting boards. Some for $125 some for $40-$50. All were the same size, same quality, same woods, same amount of work, same finish.

41 boards sold, 9 $40-$50. 32 $125.

Some weren’t even end grain.

A friend of ours talked me into trying for more money so using some flowery words with lots of hyperbola and some flashy signs, I sold enough to supply the shop budget for a year.

Now, if I can just find a place to set up my shop again.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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Mark Davisson

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#5 posted 03-15-2014 08:41 PM

Several years ago I went on a new home tour in a $1million+ neighborhood just outside Houston. Saw some absolutely gorgeous stuff, but also noticed that many of the kitchen cabinets didn’t even have backs in them – they simply mounted the carcass directly to the wall and allowed the drywall to be the cabinet back.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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Joseph Jossem

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#6 posted 03-15-2014 08:45 PM

mark thats how my house is minus the expensive neighborhood hahahaa

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Mark Davisson

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#7 posted 03-15-2014 08:51 PM

Joseph, and there’s certainly nothing wrong with that type of installation – it’s practical.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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Monte Pittman

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#8 posted 03-15-2014 08:55 PM

When showing my work, more and more I try to point out why my piece is worth more. I get a lot of people look impressed even though they have no clue what I am talking about. Asthetic appearance is still all that matters to most.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#9 posted 03-15-2014 09:53 PM

What’s an ‘asthetic ’ ?

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#10 posted 03-15-2014 10:02 PM

What’s an ‘asthetic?

MDF furniture with factory applied photo finish!

-- Bill

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#11 posted 03-15-2014 10:27 PM

I should think that somebody who owns race horses, for example, would really appreciate a ‘photo finish’ on their furniture.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#12 posted 03-15-2014 10:39 PM

chickens like fruitloops

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

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#13 posted 03-15-2014 10:39 PM

What I’ve found to be helpful when trying to explain to someone about the quality of something I’ve built, is to make an extra leg for example, and complete the mortises in the leg just like you would with the four legs going on the table. Doesn’t hurt to have the tenon as well. A good show and tell on the construction of the piece, and compare it to how some of the cheaper store bought stuff is made, goes a long way towards helping someone not educated with woodworking to make a better informed decision….. What’s the old saying, a picture is worth a thousand words? Works in this instance very well!!!


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Monte Pittman

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#14 posted 03-15-2014 11:06 PM

Aesthetic. Sorry for the misspelled word.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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Monte Pittman

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#15 posted 03-15-2014 11:09 PM

I like the idea of displaying your techniques compared to mass produced items.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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