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Forum topic by woodworkingdrew posted 137 days ago 552 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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woodworkingdrew

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137 days ago

I have an interesting situation. Last year I pruchsed a ridgid 3650 table saw off craigslist. After purchasing it, I found out that the router plate cutout was actually not part of the original setup. I learned that this special cast iron router table top is quite expensive. So my question is: Are there any advantages/disadvantages to using a table saw top as a router table? I have a seperate router table right now, but the table saw would be nice, because I can free up some space in my garage. Thanks!

-- Andrew, California


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The Box Whisperer

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#1 posted 137 days ago

I still have my router set up for my r4510, and if the thing were a little taller Id use it all the time. I still use it for routing 8ft stock. Your TS is longer then most router tables, so you get great outfeed.

I have back issues so I really need to do my repeat work up higher, so I have a dedicated router table. But thats TS setup is still very useful. I build aux fences to ride the ridgid fence on the reverse side, so that the front side still functioned perfectly as a TS. If youre interested Ill take some pics in the morning.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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knotscott

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#2 posted 137 days ago

Space savings is the biggest advantage. The disadvantages can be simply sharing that area of the saw. It’s best if you can get a separate router fence. Dust collection can require a little more thought too. For those short on space, I think it’s a good tradeoff.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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woodworkingdrew

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#3 posted 137 days ago

Box- thanks for your input and your offer to post pics. That would be great if you get a chance, thanks

-- Andrew, California

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MrUnix

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#4 posted 137 days ago

but the table saw would be nice, because I can free up some space in my garage

There’s your answer..

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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woodworkingdrew

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#5 posted 137 days ago

Knotscot – I have been thinking of those two issues in my head. For the fence, I am thinking of clamping a straight piece of mdf against my table saw fence with a cut out for the bit in the middle. And for the dust issue, I considered building a box around it and attaching it to the bottom of the cast iron top. I have threaded holes under it so that wouldn’t be to hard. I can attach a 2.5 shop vac hose to the bottom and a door to change out the router/ bits. What do you think?

-- Andrew, California

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woodworkingdrew

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#6 posted 137 days ago

MrUnix- I guess I answered my own question haha. Thanks for your input

-- Andrew, California

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NiteWalker

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#7 posted 137 days ago

As you said, the main advantage is space savings.
Another advantage is a second router table set up for a common operation, like a 1/4” roundover.

I prefer a stand alone myself, but with my small shop, I might have to do the table saw/router combo soon too.
Gonna be hard to get a jointer and 14” bandsaw in there. ;-)

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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The Box Whisperer

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#8 posted 137 days ago

Ill grab some pics in an hour or so I just got up. As nitewalker said haign a dedicated roundover station is nice

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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woodbilder

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#9 posted 137 days ago

I must be missing the problem, but a router table built into the right (or left) side extension of the table saw is a highly valuable, quite common inst. to solve the floor space issue. Cut two T-slots into a ¾” melamine, or preferably polycarbonate panel, and attach the fence, be it home made or aluminum purchased. Keep in place as needed or simply remove from the two T-bolts as preferred. Shop made or retail dust boxes for this purpose to fit under the panel and enclosing the router are available from Rockler but having been there, making your own is not worth the time and expense. Vac hose connects to the port on the box. Numerous plans are available in the WW mags.

If I misunderstand, pls advise.

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The Box Whisperer

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#10 posted 137 days ago

Ok here we are. I had to modify my r4510 to make the router table fit, so if anyone has this saw or any questions, Im here to help if I can. As I said before, the only drawback to me for this setup was that its just too low for my bad back and repeat work. Otherwise it was awesome. For these pics I just layed my jigs in place. They all fasten down square with t-bolts. If you have any questions about that part or any of it, just ask.

This is my quick setup, which allows dual use of the router and the TS fence. The right angle sled rides on low friction plastic runners.

This is my big boy fence. A little heavy for really precise stuff, but for running 8ft through the router the out feed is awesome. Much bigger then Ive seen on most router tables. I also use featherboards which arnt in the pics. Im only 1 coffee in so forgive me!

Im really sorry for these pics being flipped and such. I tried saving them, flipping and saving again, but this website does strange things to my iphone pics. It might have somehting to do with the quare photo setting?

SOrry!

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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knotscott

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#11 posted 137 days ago

That’s a pretty slick setup Box Whisperer!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Bsmith

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#12 posted 137 days ago

Do they make one for the R4512? My wooden ones seem to sag in the middle over time.

-- Bryan

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DC3_Rudy

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#13 posted 137 days ago

Giving you more space in your shop is always a good thing. I just posted a question on a old black n decker table saw that has the side router to it. And how I can make it work. Just so I can save space. I went from a 2 1/2 car garage, to a 3/4 of a single car garage this year. I spend half my time moving gear around, Store the router table, or better yet. If he side table works out, sell the router table, and get some nice router bits.
Jim

-- Jim

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The Box Whisperer

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#14 posted 137 days ago

Thanks knotscott! If I could get the whole thing to be higher up Id still use it. I cant think of a way to raise the whole deal while still being able to move it and fold it. Ive also been thinking about adding a sliding table to the other side of the saw.

-- "despite you best efforts and your confidence that your smarter and faster than a saw blade at 10k rpm…. your not …." - Charles Neil

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woodworkingdrew

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#15 posted 137 days ago

Box- Thanks for posting those pics. I forgot that the 4512 is the ridgid portable model. I see that your 4512 is on the stock stand. I know for a fact that the saw unbolts from the stand. If your not using it for portable reasons, why not make a custom cart that has wheels? It will make it easier to move around, and you can make it higher to solve the back pain issue. When I was deciding between the 4512 and the 3650, If I had purchased the 4512, I would have made my own cart to make life easier.

-- Andrew, California

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