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01-05-2009 09:08 PM

Topic tags/keywords: new table saw advice

I recently got an excuse to buy a new TS. I’m looking for something with 3hp minimum, up to a 50 inch r/rip cap., and obviously (by the HP) a cabinet saw, price range $0-$2000. I’ve looked into the steel city TS, but I haven’t heard all that much about them. I read missdebbie’s interview with them, but I was wondering if any of you have experience first hand with them. My other alternative is probably a new unisaw, but the steel city is half the price of the unisaw which would make me initially want to purchase the cheaper of the two. Thanks for the input.

Jordan

-- Always keep a stash of band-aids in your workshop!


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#1 posted 01-05-2009 09:25 PM

just remember you get what you pay for, i bought an older delta unisaw and it was the best purchase i made. i also got it used for about $1000. keep lookin on craigslist you should be able to find one.

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#2 posted 01-05-2009 09:27 PM

I’d look for a used American made Delta Unisaw.

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#3 posted 01-05-2009 09:29 PM

I picked up an old Rockwell for 600 at an auction, put a new fence system on it….......perfect

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#4 posted 01-05-2009 09:30 PM

Roper, that phrase has bitten me in the past!! You think it’ll be okay to skimp and buy the cheaper tool, next thing you know your buying a second one to replace the broken first one!

-- Always keep a stash of band-aids in your workshop!

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#5 posted 01-05-2009 09:41 PM

How do you break an industrial tool thats built like a tank ? Just out of curiosity, is your shop wired for 240V ?

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#6 posted 01-05-2009 09:43 PM

Check out grizzly.com very good and loed pricing.
Chuck

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#7 posted 01-05-2009 09:48 PM

Woodchuck, yes my shop is wired for the big juice, otherwise I’d probably settle for a hybrid.

-- Always keep a stash of band-aids in your workshop!

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#8 posted 01-06-2009 12:28 AM

I’ve been looking at the General 650R-T50 (Canadian made) for some time now. Choice of 3 hp or 5 hp 1 phase motors. I know a couple of people with this saw and they are very happy.

It’s a little more than your budgeted amount, but maybe there is one out there used?

Good luck.

-- Just 'cause a cat has kittens in the oven, it don't make 'em biscuits.

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#9 posted 01-07-2009 12:30 AM

I have the Steel City Granite top 30” 3ph 240V. It was perfect out of the box and such an improvement over
the Ryobi (POC) I had. The top is DEAD FLAT. I live near the gulf between Tampa and Sarasota Florida.
If I forget to go through my tools over a week and check them they are rusty. I picked the SC because
it was in my price range and it will NEVER rust. That was important to me. It came enclosed in a cardboard box,
that held inside it a Steel Cage. Every part that was loose was packaged in plastic. foam and cardboard.
The “Industrial Fence” has a very wide stance to help ensure it does not wrack. It is adjustable to the point
that once its set up its good to go. It came with a Forrest WWII and a tiny bottle of blade cleaner. Then
DC for it is very good. I did the Craigs list and such watch for about 4-6 months and didn’t see anything
near me that was selling accept other Contractors saws so I pulled the trigger on this and am very happy.

Hope this helps..

Rich

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!

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#10 posted 01-07-2009 12:51 AM

Do all of you that have these large, heavy table saws have huge shops? I work out of a small garage and just do not have that sort of space available. If I put what you are all talking about in the center of the work area there wouldn’t be any room to move around.

I sort of envy you all but I have fulfilled all of my woodworking needs (and they have been many and varied) with a Shopsmith Mark V and a select grouping of support equipment. It is not so heavy I can’t move it around when the need arises and it does everything.

Now, don’t jump on that statement too quickly. I’m not into cutting up timber. I’ve yet to run any 6x across the table saw or through the planer or across the jointer. I’m not a professional. I am a hobbiest and that sort of work never comes to my shop.

Some of you have equipment with which you could build bridges but I’d bet you don’t.

-- Making Sawdust Safely

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#11 posted 01-07-2009 01:59 AM

Rich, I’ve looked into the granite top but I wonder how it will perform in Michigan (currently 12 degrees here). Is the miter slot normal? I’d read somewhere that the granite miter slot was a little askew.

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#12 posted 01-07-2009 02:06 AM

Dusty2 –
The Ryobi took up just as much room. The saw is on a mobile base ( need to move it to cut most anything). The top footprint is 33×64” and that is not so bad, The base is about 20×24 or so. I park my car outside when I work in the shop.

That is the trade off I suppose? For having a small shop? Everything I have is on wheels!

I bough it after I was completely frustrated trying to accurately cut any panels (that is the Ryobi’s fualt)
its a great saw for making “near” stuff” but it cuts trapezoids and such when your trying to accurately make
anything. The New saw, once set up, cut square, cut dado’s and fit all the old re-sawn-Trap’s perfectly…

I had gotten to the point where I didn’t “trust” it to do anything accurately anymore, and now I am buying
real wood not BORG junk.. trying to make “real” furniture.

Its a tool like any other.. and its a very accurate one as alot of the others are… I like the fact I don’t have to “wax it” to keep it from rusting.

Take care

Rich

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!

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#13 posted 01-07-2009 02:18 AM

Jordan – The Guides are straight and true.

You have to read up on newer reviews on the stuff SC and Grizzly here and other places they are “new” in the game and they had “issues” with accuracy and fit and such. I checked both Miter guides and they are parallel and out of the box. The Blade I used fit fine. (IE I didn’t have the “flange on the arbor” issue another had here over a year ago.)

SC has got great CS and IMHO they responded to an issue I had very quickly… I noticed the Mitre Guage supplied had a the hold down/hand hold bent.. I called and rattled off my problem and the model number and the machine ID and my cell died! I called then next day and the guy said the found my order in the system and had allready shipped out a replacement (overnight) and I got it next day.

This don’t make it cut better but If I have an issue when it doesn’t, I expect they will be there to help me if I can figure out why…

Rich

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!

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#14 posted 01-07-2009 02:38 AM

I’m with Dusty on this one. It’s like a hobbyist buying a lumber truck to pickup a couple boards occassionally. Sure, it looks impressive, but is it neccessary ?

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#15 posted 01-07-2009 02:47 AM

Jordan – if your shop is 12 degrees I think steel tops and granite ones are going to be just as cold.
(and the granite is not going to Move much as Steel would I imagine) I moved away from dat coldness
stuff years ago when I got the opportunity to never shovel snow again!

You were asking about the miter slots and I forgot to mention that they are standard sized. I bought
a used tenon jig (delta) and it fit perfectly.

(Others) He was asking about Steel city saws. I am just giving him answers to questions best I can. If you peer up to his initial post….

“I’ve looked into the steel city TS, but I haven’t heard all that much about them”

I am trying to be “about them”

Rich

-- Duct Tape is the Force! It has a light side and a dark side and it Binds the Universe together!

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