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jd53

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03-08-2014 01:46 AM

Been looking at table saws for some time and couldn’t decide which to buy. Today Grizzly sent me a 10% off coupon by e-mail and made my decision somewhat easier. Going to buy the 0715 or the 1023. Probably really don’t need the extra power of the 1023 but it is tempting. 220 is available. Is the 1023 really $500 better? I realize the cabinet mounted trunnions are heavier and easier to adjust. How much better is the fence? The right side rip width is less on the 1023, can the rails be moved to the right to give more width? Going to be used in a home shop and won’t see extreme use. Grizzly’s comparison chart shows the 0715 being made in China in a ISO 9001 plant while the 1023 is made in Taiwan in a non ISO plant. Is this a big deal? Have contacted Grizzly recently and asked them about past alignment problems with the 0715. They told me the problems have been corrected for blade to miter slot problems, but there could be occasional blade shifting at the extreme lowest and highest blade positions. Not against spending the extra but don’t want to unless I can be convinced otherwise. Recent Wood Magazine rated the 0715 a best buy among 1.5 hp to 2 hp models. Can somebody that knows both saws give an opinion?


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retfr8flyr

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#1 posted 03-08-2014 05:12 AM

Of those two saws I would go for the 1023. It’s just a much heavier and better built saw then the 715. With 220v available it’s almost a no brainer. With 3hp you can run any blade thickness you want, with the 2hp you will want to use the thin kerf blades on thicker hardwoods.

-- Earl

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#2 posted 03-08-2014 06:29 AM

The 1023 is a time tested, proven saw. If I had 220, that’s the one I’d buy.
Since I don’t have 220, and since I will never buy anything with table mounted trunnions again, I had to skip grizzly and instead bought the steel city 35950.

I wish I had 220 in my shop (can’t add at the moment, rental property). I would have bought the 1023 a LONG time ago.

I trust taiwan made machines over china made machines.

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#3 posted 03-08-2014 12:21 PM

There’s not much argument that the G1023RL is a much beefier saw. The G0715P will cut the vast majority of what you need….possibly for decades with routine maintenance. The G1023RL will cut everything the G0715P will, and then some….every component of the 1023 is beefier. I suspect the 1023 will also have some accuracy advantages due to the dovetail ways on it’s arbor carriage, but those benefits may be harder to pickup on. The added mass, horsepower, and action of the handwheels should be pretty noticeable if you ever get to run both saws. Take a look at the pics under the hood, and of the exploded pictorial so you can see how the designs differ.

Your question about whether it’s $500 better is tough to answer….it partly depends on what $500 means to you right now. Only you can really answer that one. You’ll likely have a spare $500 again at some point in your life….hopefully soon. The odds of having a redo on a big ticket saw are more remote. I’ve never regretted buying an upgrade, but I’ve often regretted not doing the upgrade sooner.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#4 posted 03-08-2014 12:44 PM

For the other side of the coin, I have two Emerson electric built 10” CI contractor saws. I opted to keep them over a 3 hp 70s vintage unisaw I refurbished and subsequently sold. While it’s nice to have the bragging rights that come with a cabinet saw, in a hobbyist’s shop, is that mandatory given the type of work you anticipate doing. I look for what will support my intended application and then look for the most reasonably priced piece of hardware that will accommodate that application.

When I saw the saws you’re considering during a trip to the PA store, they are all capable looking machines. Table mounted trunions are not really that much more difficult to align relative to cabinet mounted trunnions, but the additional mass of a cabinet saw can compensate for some incorrect set up on the part of the operator. But both of my ~ 250 lb TSs will balance a nickel easily, and the older c- man will do it while bevel ripping. So sheer mass isn’t that important.

If I were sure a 715 wouldn’t have those alignment issues, and $500 was dear to me now, the 715 can certainly be a hobbyist’s forever saw.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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bonesbr549

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#5 posted 03-08-2014 01:53 PM

I had the 1023slx with 7’ rails for over 9 years no issues and it’s now with someone else still going strong. If you can do 220 and Griz is your choice then that would be my choice.

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jd53

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#6 posted 03-08-2014 11:37 PM

Hey just wanted to say thanks for comments on this and past questions I’ve had. Had to work today and couldn’t get on earlier. Think I’ve made my mind up and probably gonna bite the bullet on the 1023, too many positives not too. Even though I’m pretty sure its more than I need. But why be sorry later. Today Grizzly added the 0661 in the outlet store. For $925, other than the extra ripping width are there any advantages over the 0715? Another question on the 1023, the fence is better than the 0715, right? And one more for Scott, I’ve read in past topics about moving the fence rails to the right for more width, can this be done on the 1023?

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#7 posted 03-08-2014 11:58 PM

”I’ve read in past topics about moving the fence rails to the right for more width, can this be done on the 1023?”

It should work fine on any of the saws above that you mentioned. The fence on the 1023 fence has beefier tubing …it’s the same as the Shop Fox Classic AFAIK, which is pretty well proven. I’m with ya on going for the 1023 if possible.
http://lumberjocks.com/knotscott/blog/34563

”Today Grizzly added the 0661 in the outlet store. For $925, other than the extra ripping width are there any advantages over the 0715? ”
The G0661 has 12” wings, which adds 4” to the overall width, and doesn’t have a history of alignment problems. The G0715P has a larger dust port.

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#8 posted 03-09-2014 04:16 PM

Nooooooo this one

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#9 posted 03-09-2014 08:42 PM

Darthford, any reason why you’re recommending the G0696x, besides a picture? I’d love to hear more, as I’m also considering a 1023…...

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#10 posted 03-09-2014 08:46 PM

I believe it is overkill for many of us who don’t need a 5 hp motor. And it is another $900 or so.

-- Ken, Blaine Washington

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jd53

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#11 posted 03-09-2014 10:55 PM

As nice as that is, I don’t need it. I’m at my budget max. Started this process out wanting to stay well under $1000. Still may.

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MT_Stringer

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#12 posted 03-09-2014 11:10 PM

This is the last saw I will ever need. It should last long after I am gone. Wish I had bought it years ago. :-(

Like Scott has suggested, the rails can be moved outward. I now have 37 inches of rip capacity. The router table is a bonus and gets used often even though it is not my primary router table.

Yep, one man shop in a one car garage. Not much room for anything else even thogh I have a band saw, jointer and a planer to use also. :-)

Good luck. Sorry but I can’t help with any comparision other than the previous Craftsman table saw I had.

Don’t forget to get a mobile base for it. It would be difficult to move without one. (450#).

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darthford

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#13 posted 03-10-2014 12:42 AM

Beamrider here is a 5 part blog on the Grizzly G0696X in comparison to a Powermatic PM2000 have a look and let me know if you have any questions. http://lumberjocks.com/darthford/blog/38624

Also one of my primary reasons for going 12” was every time I turned around I needed to cut something thicker than the PM 10” would cut. In summary this Grizzly 12” crushes the Powermatic PM2000 10” in every way plus costs a lot less.

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jd53

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#14 posted 03-10-2014 01:38 AM

1023 is ordered. I tried to talk myself out of it but what the hell, shouldn’t have to buy another one. 220 will be set up this week. Wanna say thanks to all with their opinions on the 1023, you cost me some money. Just kidding, this was what I’ve wanted for some time, just hard to spend the little extra. Used the 10% off coupon and still have a 5% catalog coupon for something later.

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#15 posted 03-10-2014 02:02 AM

You did good. :-)
I wish I had researched before my table saw purchases. I’m on table saw #4, with #5 arriving this week, which will likely be my last saw for a good amount of years. Had I done the research as you have, and saved a bit more, #5 would have been #1 as it is for you. :-)

Years of frustration would have been avoided.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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