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Forum topic by georgiaken posted 03-07-2014 11:35 PM 1870 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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georgiaken

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03-07-2014 11:35 PM

Topic tags/keywords: ridgid bandsaw bs1400 bs14000 woodslicer rikon 10-325 10-325

So, some time ago I bought a BS14000 Ridgid bandsaw. The bandsaw is your typical 14” clone and has a 3/4HP motor. I did the tuneups and such and put a Woodslicer blade on it.

Recently, while shopping at Highland Woodworking, I saw the Rikon 10-325 on sale. Well, I picked it up for $799.99 plus tax. I brought it home, but it’s still sitting in my SUV.

Here’s the thing…I decided to try a little resawing on my Ridgid before I opened the box…and wouldn’t you know it? I can resaw 2X6” ash and oak just fine. The saw doesn’t bog down or slow down and the cut seems plenty clean.

The two pics with dimes are the ash and the nickel is red oak. The veneers are just cutoffs and are roughly the thickness of the coins. I actually did the oak completely freehand.

So, my question…why so many posts saying the Ridgid won’t do the job, or I’ll be disappointed due to the low HP? I also cut a bit into a 100 year old pine beam (2X12) and it cut, no problem…

So, now, I’m wondering…should I take the Rikon back? OR should I keep it and sell the Ridgid? By the way, the Ridgid had the riser block on it (the 2X12 might have given that away).

I mean, $300 (including the riser) beats $799+tax everyday, all day…


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#1 posted 03-07-2014 11:41 PM

If you’re cutting a full 12” wide hardwood piece, you may want the Rikon. Most of the time, it won’t matter much though. I’ve got a 1hp Grizzly and it has so far cut a 10” piece of walnut just fine.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#2 posted 03-07-2014 11:50 PM

I have the Rikon and it works well for me. But if the Ridgid is doing for you what you need it to do, then I’d say keep what you have and put the $800 away for something else.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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#3 posted 03-07-2014 11:56 PM

I just didn’t have anything to compare it to…but the little “fake” veneers I cut don’t seem to have thick ridges or anything. So, I was wondering if the Rikon was really needed.

On the other hand, I’ll feel stupid 3-5 years from now, if I find I should have kept it and the price has gone up…

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#4 posted 03-08-2014 12:01 AM

About the only advantage you might get from the Rikon is slightly more resaw height capability and the ability to use a wider blade. For the Ridgid, which is basically a Delta clone, you don’t want to go much larger than a 1/2 inch blade, particularly when using the riser block. I’m pretty sure you can run up to a 3/4” blade on the Rikon.

As for motor size.. keep in mind that it’s the blade doing the work.. the motor just keeps it moving. I have a 1/2HP motor on my delta and routinely cut 10” hardwood slabs without a problem. Here is what Delta has to say about motor size on the 14 inch bandsaw in their users manual:

  • For most work around the small shop or home work-ship a good 1/3HP motor will be found to furnish ample power for this machine. For steady production work, using wide blades, or whenever the Height Attachment is used for cutting thick and heavy stock, a good 1/2HP Repulsion-Induction Motor should be used.

I would take the Rikon back and be happy with the Ridgid.. use the money elsewhere.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - To be old and wise, you must first be young and stupid

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#5 posted 03-08-2014 12:06 AM

I would take the Rikon back and keep the Ridgid as long as it’s doing what you want it to do. I got some good info and bought the Woodslicer blade right away and love it on what might be considered an underpowered 3/4 hp Steel City saw. I have one bandsaw at home and use three of them at work and can tell you that it’s not the saw, but the blade that makes the most difference.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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#6 posted 03-08-2014 12:28 AM

I think the thing that changed my mind was watching youtube videos. The bandsaws they were using had tons of HP, but they were still going slow…I guess to be careful and keep the work piece tight to the fence.

Well, if you’re going to go slow anyway, it just seemed like being able to go faster didn’t much matter.

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#7 posted 03-08-2014 01:37 AM

Those Woodslicers cut great when new. They don’t stay
sharp long though, in my experience. Results degrade
as the blade dulls.

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#8 posted 03-08-2014 01:40 AM

Loren,

Is that just a comment about the blade or does it relate to the bandsaw as well…as in, with the Rikon I could use different blades than the Ridgid?

I have read several places that they dull fairly quickly though…

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#9 posted 03-08-2014 02:27 AM

I have a 17” Grizzly BS and an older Ridgid 14”. I use both to avoid the hassle of changing blades and all the guide settings every time I need to go from resawing to cutting curves.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#10 posted 03-08-2014 02:48 AM

That’s about the blade. A really sharp blade will cut straight
on a lot of band saws. As they dull, they all cut worse and
some will wander or even bow in the cut.

I don’t think resawing wide boards is generally worth the
hassle. If you’re making veneers especially, keeping the
depth to 6” or less makes the setup more forgiving, is
faster to feed and leaves less blade in the cut to bow
and ruin the work.

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#11 posted 03-08-2014 03:11 AM

Agree with the others – if the Rigid does what you need – spend the 799 on a tool you don’t already have.

-- 'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' ~George Carlin

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#12 posted 03-08-2014 03:25 AM

It is a true exercise in restraint, not to rip that box open LOL

TRUST ME!

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#13 posted 03-08-2014 03:54 AM

Before you open the Rikon box, check out the Drunken Woodworker’s review of it: http://drunkenwoodworker.com/rikon-10-325-bandsaw-review

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#14 posted 03-08-2014 11:07 PM

Soooo, I went into my local Woodcraft to grab a 4”hose connector. I just happened to take the wood in the pictures with me. I figured, I’d ask someone who might know, and could see it in person.

Turns out, they were doing a bandsaw session that very same day. When I showed them the wood and told them it came off a Ridgid, they just looked at each other and back at me and looked shocked.

I was like, “I tuned it, and this is what I was able to get…is that a good finish? Does it get better than that?” They just paused and looked at me and told me that it was excellent…that’s about as good as it’s going to get…and they are shocked it came off a Ridgid…I must have done a great job tuning it…that made me smile…except the part about me not really needing a new bandsaw…or so I thought.

As we kept talking and I mentioned the Rikon, they basically said…you’re getting good results from the Ridgid, and that’s great…but, the Rikon will grow with you…and you won’t likely want any more, if you’re a hobbyist, working at home.

I kinda feel like it’s a complete waste of money, but, I am happy I am keeping it…and telling my wife the story, she somehow felt a little better about me keeping it too!

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#15 posted 03-08-2014 11:24 PM

It will be nice to have both saws. You won’t have to change the set-up on either saw much this way. Set one up for resaw and one up for curves as gfadvm said in the above post.

-- The older I get the faster I was.

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