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Nate1

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03-07-2014 10:43 AM

Topic tags/keywords: unisaw 34-461 36-953 1977 77 1999 99 benefits

I currently own a recently refurbished 34-461 Unisaw (~1977’). The saw has been completely disassembled, cleaned, painted, new arbor bearing, new motor bearings (original Baldor motor), and tuned. The saw is a 3hp, 230v single phase, right tilt.

An opportunity has presented itself to get a 36-953 (~1999’) Unisaw with a new Leeson motor and new arbor bearings. 3hp, 230v, single phase, and left tilt.

Dollar wise, it would be an even exchange between the sale of my model 34-xxx and purchase of a model 36-xxx. Are there any benefits between these two models besides the tilt direction (depending who you ask) or the overall age?

For reference

34- Era Unisaw (similar condition as mine)

36- Era Unisaw (similar to the one I am looking to purchase)


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 03-07-2014 11:02 AM

Im partial to the rockwell simply because I had that saw for quite a few years, well not only owned it but used it a lot, and it never let me down.

Its missing a motor cover in the pic. but easy to make.

cabinet looks nicer (to me)

Its a fight tilt, which I prefer , but I can use either

Both have 8 inch wings so thats not a consideration

I prefer baldor over leeson

I like the fence lock down lever on the rockwell biese better

I don’t see where you would be ahead on the trade

The cabinet labels look sorta cheesy on the newer one.

JB

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Minorhero

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#2 posted 03-07-2014 11:59 AM

Dust collection on the newer one. That is about it.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 03-07-2014 12:16 PM

Will you get a better fence on the new one?

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Nate1

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#4 posted 03-07-2014 01:37 PM

I will be keeping the fence I prefer, which will likely be the Vega Pro 50 which resides on the 34-461. The new one I am looking does have a Bessy. I am not a big fan of the Bessy despite having used one for many years while in the industry.

Motor cover, I am in the process of building a nice motor cover for the current 34-461 I have. Just verified the dimensions via a prototype two days ago. :-)

Dust collection…yep. Prior to finding this opportunity, I was planning to fashion an angular pan in the 34-461 similar to the newer models.

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joek30296

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#5 posted 03-07-2014 02:06 PM

The fact that the newer one is left tilt would be my reason for trading. Everything is equal as far as I’m concerned.

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freddy1962

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#6 posted 03-07-2014 02:24 PM

I’d keep the one you have for the cool factor alone. Older Unisaws are much better looking. The right or left tilt never effects me personally. I have a ‘74 UNI, r tilt, single ph. Love it. Finish your saw and enjoy.

-- JEFF Illinois (Banks of the Mississippi)

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bigblockyeti

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#7 posted 03-07-2014 02:29 PM

I’d hang onto the older one, especially since you know what is newer on yours. I prefer right tilt. If the newer one had a Unifence, that is something I would consider an upgrade from the Biesemeyer style fence. Since it does not and for the many reasons stated already, I’d stick with what you’ve got.

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Nate1

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#8 posted 03-07-2014 03:05 PM

bigblockyeti,

Out of curiosity, how do you use the right tilt in a way that you have preference for it?

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mikeevens45

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#9 posted 03-07-2014 04:28 PM

keep the 77

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knotscott

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#10 posted 03-07-2014 05:01 PM

I prefer left tilt, but that’s a lot of trouble to go through to gain that feature. You’re at least familiar with the nuances of your current saw…the other is a bit of an unknown. If it were me, I’d keep what I’ve got.

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bigblockyeti

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#11 posted 03-07-2014 06:25 PM

With a sacrificial fence and the blade penetrated into the fence it’s much faster at chamfering corners than on the router table or jointer. Taking much off the corner does require a setup to keep the captured cutoff from being shot back by the blade. I’ve found a tiny leaf spring on the correct height riving knife works very well.

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toolie

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#12 posted 03-08-2014 12:58 AM

Left tilt would be reason enough for me. According. to shop notes magazine, left tilts are somewhat less prone to kickbacks arising from material being trapped between the blade and fence when bevel ripping.

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vonhagen

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#13 posted 03-08-2014 01:35 AM

mine is a 1972 model with cast iron base and right tilt and i like the older models just for the fact that the machining and the metal was all done here in the us. i do prefer the baldoor motor. i like the right tilt just for my slide attachment but hate it for ripping because of kick back. for general work go with the new model, i dont know if the new model has triple pullys like the older ones but i was getting more vibration with matched belts then bought a single cogged browning grip notch belt and its smooth as silk. if you look at larger saws or shapers they use a thin single belt that is cogged.

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Rick M.

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#14 posted 03-08-2014 02:15 AM

Been using a right tilt for years with no kickback problems. The left/right tilt thing is getting into minutiae, the theory of safety vs the reality. If you are careful with the basics then tilt will make no difference and if you have an ambidextrous fence then who cares which way it tilts.

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