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Forum topic by Lumber2Sawdust posted 03-07-2014 03:09 AM 977 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Lumber2Sawdust

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03-07-2014 03:09 AM

I’ve been spraying some trim for a remodel project. I’m using general finishes water based stain.

I am going for a “medium to dark brown” tone. To get the desired color, I am mixing 1 part green dye, 2 parts brown mahogany stain and 6 parts of natural finish.

The green dye neutralizes some of the reddish tone of the brown mahogany stain. I am adding the natural finish to cut the intensity of the stain so that I can spray multiple passes and “build up” the stain to the darkness/depth that I want.

My question is, does this sound reasonable? Is there a better approach? It seems like I’m spraying a lot of neutral color in the process of applying this stain.

I’m spraying with a HVLP sprayer. I would rate my skill with spraying as intermediate – I usually get decent results but I could certainly do better.

Any suggestions or advice is appreciated.


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Mark Shymanski

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#1 posted 03-26-2014 12:04 AM

I didn’t realize you could build up stain, I sorta thought it was a one time application.

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#2 posted 03-26-2014 01:36 AM

Is this dye/stain ?

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Lumber2Sawdust

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#3 posted 03-26-2014 02:00 AM

Yes, this is General Finishes Brown Mahogany Stain mixed with little of the GF green dye.

I never really thought about “building up” stain, either. I was trying to learn more about spraying stains, especially on things like frame and panel doors. Something I read talked about cutting the stain so that you don’t get full depth of color in one pass. That way if you get overlaps where you spray you can work them out with lighter-toned layers of stain to get to the final color.

It seems to work pretty well. It was really the gist of my original post for the most effective way to spray stains.

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#4 posted 03-26-2014 02:29 AM

GF sells dye/stain why not just use it instead of making your own ?

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Lumber2Sawdust

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#5 posted 03-26-2014 02:41 AM

Jim, I’m looking for a specific color. None of their stains are exactly the color I need so I need to mix something to get what I need.

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#6 posted 03-26-2014 02:54 AM

I mix dye stain all the time,but what ever works for you. Charles Neil is coming out with a book that will have photos of different colors you can get by mixing dye colors together,a recipe book for colors.

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upinflames

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#7 posted 03-26-2014 10:09 AM

Holy crap, there are color charts all over the internet, you don’t have to wait on a book. What you’re doing sounds fine as long as the coats of stain are not drying completely before the next coat. If the finish dries the stain will just sit on top of the last coat, then you have adhesion problems.

I mix all kinds of different color stains, dyes, toners, as well as different brands. I have been doing this for a living for thirty years, never had a problem. The best way to find out how a stain or finish will work is try it on scrap. What works for some doe’s not always work for others.

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