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Ironcat4

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143 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: sawstop table saw

Hello Lumberjocks,

My original post simply stated that I had a conversation with Steve Gass and that after much discussion I was supporting his design of improved safety in the event of flesh contact with the blade. The tactics to strong arm other manufactures into purchasing licensing his patented product was never involved in the original post.

I didn’t have any personal motive or gain to post that I supported his design since I am actively searching for a table saw for purchase in my own shop. Pulling the trigger on a quality table saw is my objective and when you can get the president of a company on the phone to discuss his products, well that speaks volume to my idea of a company that I might be interested to do business with.

It’s great to see so many responses, it’s even more incredible that peoples responses reflect such anger. My intent was simply to acknowledge what appears to be an effective device. If your brand suits you than more power to you. If your a saw stop enthusiast then you might agree.

Only been on this forrum for a few days and learned so much from so many folks already. Thank you all for that. As for the rest of you who seem real upset about the technology represented by sawstop, I sure didn’t mean to offend you because my opinion is my very own, just like your opinion is yours.

Best of luck to you all in your creativity and more importantly be safe.

Ironcat4


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 143 days ago

Uh-oh….

-- I long for the days when Coke was a cola, and a joint was a bad place to be (Merle Haggard)

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RockyTopScott

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#2 posted 143 days ago

B O O M !

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#3 posted 143 days ago

I think having the technology offered to those interested is a great idea, having it forced on us in such a manner as Mr. Gass is in my opinion very despicable. This is only the third reason I have for not buying one. #1 the saws are manufactured in a country whose economy I have zero desire in supporting. #2 the quality of the saw overall is inferior to my made in USA Unisaw.

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#4 posted 143 days ago

Safer and a good saw convinced me.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#5 posted 143 days ago

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RobS888

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#6 posted 143 days ago

AlaskaGuy,

If I plan on buying one it isn’t dead at all to me.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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buildingmonkey

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#7 posted 143 days ago

I have a Hammer slider on order, my thinking is that sliders are safer than conventional table saws, and I am getting older, and have seen older guys make some bad mistakes in their shops. The european companies really do have a safer saw than the American style tablesaws. You can check out the Hammer video on their site. My friends in a cabinet saw have a SCMi, and they endorse the slider for safe operation. Mine is nowhere as big as theirs, but same principle.

-- Jim from Kansas

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#8 posted 143 days ago

What I don’t understand is why more people don’t just add power feeds to table saws. You can mount one in between the table saw and router mounted in the same top making both tools safer. They also make flip down tops for them, so they can fold down out of the way when you are not using them.

I have not done this yet, but it will be a sweet set up, I think. It will also cost less than a SawStop, accomplish essentially the same thing and add utility too. Will be really good for using table saw molding heads and dado heads.

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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crank49

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#9 posted 143 days ago

I don’t feel his motives were any less noble than the requirements that rotary lawn mowers have blade brakes and dead man switches or that cars have seat belts and air bags and that small children be restrained in safety seats. All these things are a nuisance to most of us, but they save lives and prevent injuries.

Bigblockyeti said “I think having the technology offered to those interested is a great idea, having it forced on us in such a manner as Mr. Gass is in my opinion very despicable. This is only the third reason I have for not buying one. #1 the saws are manufactured in a country whose economy I have zero desire in supporting. #2 the quality of the saw overall is inferior to my made in USA Unisaw.

Bigblock, the Sawstop saws are made in Taiwan. The company that owns Delta/Unisaw is a Taiwanese company. They presently are assembling Unisaws here, but the parts are not necessarily from here. In any case, if you buy a Unisaw today you are supporting a Taiwanese company. There has been no evidence presented that proves the Unisaw is a superior machine to the comparably priced Sawstop.

If I had the money to buy any saw I wanted it would probably be a Sawstop or a slider. That’s my opinion, you are welcome to yours.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#10 posted 143 days ago

I have a power feed for my Unisaw and I like using it. While it’s not practical for all applications, the net result is a much safer saw. It is more time consuming than pushing the work piece through by hand, but the consistent feed speed produces a superior cut quality.

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bigblockyeti

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#11 posted 143 days ago

I am more than aware of who currently owns Delta and have made my choice accordingly.

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#12 posted 143 days ago

At one time the Unisaw was manufactured in this country, but the costs of manufacturing the saws here resulted in retail prices that the American consumer was not willing to pay – at least not in large enough numbers. So the saws are now manufactured where costs (primarily labor) are lower than they are here.

Evidence leads me to believe that the saws come to the US from Taiwan in just two or three pieces. Those two or three pieces are “assembled” here, but only, I suspect, so Delta can claim that they are assembled here.

And, since this thread is about Sawstop, I’ll again share my suspicion that the company that manufactures the Unisaw and the company that manufactures the SawStop are one and the same.

-- I'm selfless because it feels so good!

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#13 posted 143 days ago

I purchased mine when all saws were manufactured in their entirety in the USA.

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#14 posted 143 days ago

I think Unisaws are still actually made in the USA, not just assembled here. You don’t need a new 50,000 sq.ft. facility to just assemble stuff:

http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/Ezine/Articles/Delta-to-Become-Independent-Company-Once-Again-8244.aspx

-- http://www.basswoodmodular.com/Tri-Horse-Builder-Plans-p/thbp.htm

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#15 posted 143 days ago

Here in Texas we are by law forced to wear seat belts.
Motor cyclist do not have to wear helmets.
Where is the sense in that.
Ditto with the sawstop.
You force people to be safe but then again you don’t.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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