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Newbiewoodworker43

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03-04-2014 04:49 PM

Topic tags/keywords: delta jointer vintage joiner

I ran across this ad on CL and was wondering what your opinion of this Delta 6” Jointer was.

http://nh.craigslist.org/tls/4357718654.html

Sounds like the motor is shot but he has a 1.5hp replacement. I also cannot see if the belt guard and infeed/outfeed table adjustment cranks are there. I have asked him about these.

I checked on the VintageMachine Wiki and I think this was made in 1950 according to the serial number.

Is this worth the $125? If not, how much would you pop for?

He is also about 2 hours drive from where I live so it is a bit of a haul…

Thanks for your opinion
Howard

-- ---Howard, Amesbury MA


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Minorhero

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#1 posted 03-04-2014 05:24 PM

It will almost certainly require new bearings in the cutterhead. Beyond that it is definitely is a good deal assuming you don’t mind doing the bearing exchange. The 1.5 ho motor alone would cost 125 brand new or more. See if you can get the “broken” motor, some folks might want to buy it to complete their machines.

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Loren

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#2 posted 03-04-2014 05:30 PM

Motors that do that often need to be started by hand and let to
run under no load for a 1/2 hour or so. Sometimes they work fine
after that. Of course some motors have lubrication fittings and in
that case a motor that hasn’t run in 20 years needs a lube.
Sometimes a capacitor needs replacing.

It’s not a bad deal if you need a jointer to get started on. The
drive increases the investment though so you’ll have to justify
that.

I’ve never replaced bearings in the 50+ vintage machines I’ve
owned.

The price is about right, not a bargain.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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ToddJB

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#3 posted 03-04-2014 05:52 PM

Bearings are no biggie on this machine, I just replaced mine. It was $20 from Accurate bearings. Price is for you to decide. I like mine. It’s a good solid jointer. And I agree get both motors. The old Delta motors rarely burnt out, so the chances that it is a simple fix would be good.

-- I came - I sawed - I over-built

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Newbiewoodworker43

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#4 posted 03-04-2014 06:34 PM

His original post was for $140 on Feb 11. He changed it to $125 on March 2nd. I am hoping that he might take $75 or $100 max.

Maybe I can get him to meet me half way. I figure it is worth asking.

I am also hoping that if I can get the original motor to work I can use the 1.5 hp motor on my 14” Delta band saw I just got. It has a 1/3 hp motor on it now so I would like to upgrade the power eventually so resawing would be more feasible. Or use the 1 hp motor on the band saw and the 1.5 hp on the jointer.

-- ---Howard, Amesbury MA

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Newbiewoodworker43

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#5 posted 03-04-2014 06:37 PM

Loren, forgive my ignorance but how do you start a motor by hand? I am pretty new at all this.

Thanks

-- ---Howard, Amesbury MA

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bigblockyeti

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#6 posted 03-04-2014 06:48 PM

I would think you could get it for $100. I would try to nail that down before taking the trip. A few more pictures sent to you might not be a bad idea either, as surprises after driving that far would make for a certain disappointment.

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Bill729

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#7 posted 03-04-2014 06:51 PM

“He changed it to $125 on March 2nd. I am hoping that he might take $75 or $100 max.”

If it’s not worth $100 to you, I’d just walk away from it. What’s going to happen is you’re not going to get it.

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Newbiewoodworker43

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#8 posted 03-04-2014 11:04 PM

Bill, I have been thinking about what you have said and I think I am trying to lower the price to offset the 2 hour drive I would have to make to pick up the jointer. It is definitely worth the $100 and I think that you are right. If it is not worth that much for me considering the distance I should probably walk away.

Thanks for your post. It helped me figure out what I was really thinking.

On that note, I did some more searching and found a Craftsman 6 inch jointer, model 103.23800 that looks like it has been restored. This is only 35 minutes away and he is asking $125.

http://nh.craigslist.org/tls/4294919131.html

Not being familiar with jointers can anyone say if this is a decent tool? How does it compare to the Delta?

-- ---Howard, Amesbury MA

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Bill729

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#9 posted 03-04-2014 11:26 PM

An important feature in a jointer is its mass (you want it to be stable when you drag pieces of lumber across it). I think I like the first one—but you’ll be the one doing all of the reconditioning, replacing the blades, belts, etc. I think it would be more “solid”. The second one is of course, just a “bench top” jointer secured to a wooden cart, or something, and it seems to me it would be more subject to vibration. I would check on blade availability before buying. Good luck!

By the way, I think bench top units are available new for around $250 or so (I could be mistaken, maybe not 6”).

Bill

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tefinn

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#10 posted 03-05-2014 12:03 AM

Both of those jointers are good tools. Depends on whether you want to restore or if you want ready to use.

The Craftsman looks to be in good shape. Made sometime in the 50’s by King-Seeley. It has a home made stand that doesn’t look too bad. I’d like to see more pics and have more info on it. He only shows it from the back and gives no motor info (does it have one?). The chips drop down from the middle and are hard to contain. A custom dust collection could be made though.

The Delta is going to need some work, but is my preferred machine of the two. According to the serial no. it was made in 1950. Looks to be all there and has the original motor (even if it doesn’t run) and the newer motor. I think that 1-1/2 hp is over powering it , but as long as the cutter head is kept to no more than 4200 rpm it should be fine. Has an original stand ( a plus to me). Not sure on this, but I believe the Delta is heavier and has a longer table than the Craftsman. The chips on this one drop from the middle also , but has a chute to direct them to the front. This makes it easier to set up some type of dust collection.

Knives can be bought for both from Holbren. I just recently started getting my knives from them and love them so far.

The decision is up to you. Travel for (IMHO) a better tool, but have to restore/repair, or travel less for a better condition tool, but (again) IMHO a (slightly) lesser quality tool. Either in restored condition would be a good addition to your shop.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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firefighterontheside

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#11 posted 03-05-2014 12:18 AM

I was thinking the 1 1/2 horse was a little overkill too. I would go for the one with the longer bed or wait for another one to come up and forego the little craftsman. I had a bench top jointer and I couldn’t do anything long like I wanted to.

-- Bill M. I love my job as a firefighter, but nothing gives me the satisfaction of running my hand over a project that I have built and just finished sanding.

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Loren

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#12 posted 03-05-2014 12:19 AM

You plug it in and spin the sheave. It will often start to run.
If you do this a few times and run it for 20-30 minutes
each time and it still won’t start on its own, it probably
needs a capacitor. A motor shop can test it for you and
sell you a capacitor. If you just order a capacitor online
and it doesn’t fix it, you’re stuck with a working $20
capacitor and a knackered motor.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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tefinn

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#13 posted 03-05-2014 12:42 AM

Neither of these jointers are large, both are short beds (under three feet). As i said in my other reply I believe the Delta is longer, if it is, it’s only a couple of inches. The seller of the Craftsman may also have the wrong model no., I think he meant it’s a 103.23900 not 800. The Delta looks like it’s probably a 37-207.

-- Tom Finnigan - Measures? We don't need no stinking measures! - Hmm, maybe thats why my project pieces don't fit.

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Newbiewoodworker43

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#14 posted 03-05-2014 02:44 AM

I do like the Delta better. I particularly like the the original stand is there. Also I just heard back from the Delta owner and he has both sides to the belt cover and both table locking knobs but the knob for the guide lock is missing.

Loren, thanks for the info on trying to get the motor going. I hope it works.

Thanks to all for your opinions and putting up with my newbie questions and waffling.

I think I will offer him $100 and see if he will meet me half way to cut down on the drive and gas costs.

Wish me luck

-- ---Howard, Amesbury MA

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Sandra

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#15 posted 03-05-2014 02:52 AM

Hi Howard,
I bought a used 6” Delta jointer when starting out not quite 2 years ago.
Mine looks newer than the one you are looking at, but still the old style, heavy base etc
It required some elbow grease to get it cleaned up and that’s it. It even came with a new set of knives.
I paid $150 for it and it was well worth it.

$100 bucks seems like a lot for a jointer that you already know you’re going to have to refurbish.
I say take a pass on that one, a better one will come up.

-- No, I don't want to buy the pink hammer.

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