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02-28-2014 07:47 PM

I looks to me like a harbor freight but I have not seen any table saws by them with a cast iron or belt drive… is this a decent saw?

Thanks

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI


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#1 posted 02-28-2014 07:58 PM

Those were imported through the 1980s to N. America
and probably into the 1990s. Eventually they gave up
on trying to make them look like a cabinet saw and went
with four splayed legs. It’s a copy of a Rockwell style of saw
that emerged, I think, in the 1970s.

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#2 posted 02-28-2014 08:18 PM

are they a decent saw?

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#3 posted 02-28-2014 08:19 PM

Yeah, I think so, for $150 max used perhaps. Depends on
your area and availability of used machines.

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#4 posted 02-28-2014 10:34 PM

It’s probably one of the many contractor saws made by Mao Shan….they also made similar saws for Grizzly, Jet, PM, Bridgewood, Ohio Forge, AFF, Omega, and several others. It’s a pretty typical older Taiwanese contractor saw, but the fence is on the lame side. Decent enough to do good work with and has good potential if the price is right, but is no where near as nice as those Steel City hybrids you posted about earlier.

I had a similar Griz G1022Z in the shop last summer:

Here’s what you can expect under the hood:

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#5 posted 02-28-2014 10:42 PM

Thanks knotscott,

I respect your take on these saws, I have read your write ups now on several sites and they are excellent primers for the saw types. I do like some of the Steel City ones, but at that price and After reading a couple of your articles I am tempted to hold out for a decent used unisaw because from what I have read those are great and I also have seen a few used Powermatics that were of interest to me, in particular is a PM 65 for $300 I saw (No fence) but I am considering an incra ts ls so I could use it with a router table too.

At the moment I am trying to learn / read about what to check for in these older but sturdy models so I don’t get burnt.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#6 posted 02-28-2014 10:52 PM

No contest!

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#7 posted 02-28-2014 11:01 PM

that is a massive difference… I know I want to upgrade my DW744 and I have been offered $325 for that… I was willing to spend about $200 above the sale price of the DW744 thinking along the lines of the R4512 but after reading your stuff and digging around it seems decent unisaws come up for $500 to $800 in various conditions fairly often so I am leaning heavily on waiting for my “deal” to come and invest in something like that which will last me forever rather than something that might last 5 years. The only things I am leery of is no riving knives, I usually don’t use the plastic stuff on the newer saws because in my case I feel like they are more dangerous than beneficial (at least on the saws I have used) and all to often the kickback things scratch up the wood so I don’t use those often but I use the riving knife 100% of the time…

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#8 posted 03-01-2014 04:49 AM

Tom,

I’ve been looking for a usable unisaw or pm66 for the last year here in the heart of chicago. they go so fast I’ve given up search. I check CL maybe 6-8 times a day. there was a pm66 this morning listed at 6:12am I called at 7:15am when I woke up and it had already been sold and picked up.

Paul

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#9 posted 03-01-2014 05:11 AM

That stinks Paul… there is a PM65 for $300 in SW Mich I saw on craigslist, not the 66 but maybe that would interest you, it’s a bit to far for me. I am open to more than just a unisaw or PM, I have even liked a couple of the older cast iron top craftsman I have seen with the cast iron wings with the holes and belt on them.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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#10 posted 03-01-2014 05:38 AM

There was a mid 90’s Unisaw in the Madison area a few days ago that was 700 in great shape. I emailed them an hour later and it was sold. I guess I will keep trying but nice saws do seem to pop up occasionally.

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#11 posted 03-01-2014 05:57 AM

The saw in the OP is one ugly bugger.

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#12 posted 03-01-2014 12:16 PM

You guys might want to watch some of the goverment auction sights. So many times they are selling the good older American made saws out of schools. I don’t believe a highschool shop could hurt them even in 20 or 30 years. These were built to last several life times. I think it would be very rare if these were abused.

I’ve had a 8” Pm jointer made in 1964 for the past 30 years that was in a school, heavy beast but it runs like a dream. Mine came with a single phase 110/220 motor on it, but this is something you have to watch. A lot of times they may have a 3 phase motor. Even with that, I would consider it, if the price was right, anywhere under 5-6 hundred for a saw. You can buy a phase converter, or a new motor for 3-4 hundred dollars and your good to go for life. For me, I would be more comfortable knowing its history.

Right now there are two saws up for sale in a school in Ohio. These listings change almost daily so you have to watch. I guess for me a 2-3 hour drive might be worth it. There are several sights that have goverment listings. If I was closer you would probably have to bid against me :)

Best of luck with your search.

http://m.publicsurplus.com/sms/browse/search?posting=y&slth=&page=0&sortBy=timeLeft&keyWord=table+saw&catId=-1&endHours=-1&startHours=-1&lowerPrice=0&higherPrice=0&milesLocation=-1&zipCode=&region=&search=Search

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#13 posted 03-01-2014 12:19 PM

Tom – Did you see this Unisaw for $750.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/4316475846.html

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#14 posted 03-01-2014 01:11 PM

Paul,

This is in St. Louis. Only problem I see is that it’s 3 phase.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/tls/4349709670.html

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#15 posted 03-01-2014 03:26 PM

knotscott – I did see that one in the Madison area… the problem with that one is that it’s in pieces and having never owned one, I would not know how to put it back together.

I have to ask did you happen to do a write up on what to look for in a used table saw? something that might speak to “gotcha’s” or what parts you should expect to have to replace? how to inspect a used saw? I have been reading a lot but have not come across a write up like that.

-- --Tom - Saint Francis, WI

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